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Apollo Discussions => The Hoax Theory => Topic started by: Edwardwb1001 on November 10, 2012, 06:37:46 AM

Title: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Edwardwb1001 on November 10, 2012, 06:37:46 AM
Do any members know the precise resolution capabilities of the LRO at the various altitudes at which it orbited the moon?
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 10, 2012, 06:56:03 AM
Yes: http://www.msss.com/all_projects/lro-camera.php
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Jason Thompson on November 10, 2012, 07:21:41 AM
Andromeda beat me to it, but surely it's not hard to Google that information, Edward? It's not like LRO is some secret program that only a select few have access to the details of.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Trebor on November 10, 2012, 07:26:23 AM
Yes: http://www.msss.com/all_projects/lro-camera.php

I would add to that link that the resolutions given were at its standard mapping orbital altitude.
At a greater distance the resolution was lower, and later on the mission the LROs orbit was changed so that it passed much closer to the moon for a few orbits giving a higher resolution of some areas.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Edwardwb1001 on November 10, 2012, 07:36:49 AM
Thank you for that link, Andromeda! I appreciate it.  I did of course Google the information first, Jason, and was presented with many websites with much (and sometimes superfluous) information. The one Andromeda's given is concise and exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: ka9q on November 10, 2012, 08:10:24 AM
I would add to that link that the resolutions given were at its standard mapping orbital altitude.
At a greater distance the resolution was lower, and later on the mission the LROs orbit was changed so that it passed much closer to the moon for a few orbits giving a higher resolution of some areas.

This is correct. The narrow angle camera pixels are 10 microradians wide, so at the standard mapping altitude of 50 km the pixel spacing is

10 * 10-6 rad * 50 * 103 m
= 0.5 m, as specified.

This is within a factor of two of the diffraction limit in visible light of the 195 mm diameter telescope objective.

Although the resolution improved at lower altitudes, the resolution wasn't quite inversely proportional to altitude because of spacecraft movement during the finite CCD exposure time.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Rob260259 on November 10, 2012, 09:52:12 AM
Do any members know the precise resolution capabilities of the LRO at the various altitudes at which it orbited the moon?

There's a myriad of information available.
I started with http://www.apollo.mem-tek.com/ and http://www.lroc.asu.edu/EPO/LROC/lroc.php?pg=specifications

Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: raven on November 10, 2012, 02:43:24 PM
Should this be moved to another sub-forum?
I don't see what it has to do with an Apollo hoax.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 10, 2012, 03:02:47 PM
Should this be moved to another sub-forum?
I don't see what it has to do with an Apollo hoax.

I'm sure Edward will tell us... eventually  ::)
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Rob260259 on November 10, 2012, 05:36:04 PM
Should this be moved to another sub-forum?
I don't see what it has to do with an Apollo hoax.

I'm sure Edward will tell us... eventually  ::)


Here's a suggestion for Edward. The Ultra close-up views of the Apollo 11 landing site. Allthough the LRO's mission is to map the moon, not to prove that the moon landings were in fact real.


&feature=plcp

(yes, I'm a GoneToPlaid fan)
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Edwardwb1001 on November 11, 2012, 10:27:28 AM
I'm surprised that no members have twigged on why I've asked for the exact resolution capabilities of the LRO. Not so smart after all it seems...Nevermind, I'm sure I'll get my 'marching orders' (as suggested by a particular member) before I actually get around to coming to the point of my question - and you all know how long THAT might take! Of course, I only keep members waiting because I derive tremendous satisfaction from the attention obtained therefrom.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 11, 2012, 10:42:06 AM
Edward, we've all known for some time that you are a troll.  It's like having a cat toy.  Do you ever think we might get satisfaction out of laughing at the ridiculous things you post?

For the record, I am much, much smarter than you  :)
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Jason Thompson on November 11, 2012, 10:50:22 AM
Edward, we have plenty of suspicions as to why you asked for the information. Do you honestly think you've brought anything original to this discussion? We've refrained from saying anything because some of us still cling on the faint but evidently misplaced hope that you might actually have something new and interesting to say.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: raven on November 11, 2012, 11:07:38 AM
I'm surprised that no members have twigged on why I've asked for the exact resolution capabilities of the LRO. Not so smart after all it seems...Nevermind, I'm sure I'll get my 'marching orders' (as suggested by a particular member) before I actually get around to coming to the point of my question - and you all know how long THAT might take! Of course, I only keep members waiting because I derive tremendous satisfaction from the attention obtained therefrom.
To quote Buzz, Lightyear that is, "You are a sad, strange, little man."
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: RAF on November 11, 2012, 11:11:03 AM
I'm surprised that no members have twigged on why I've asked for the exact resolution capabilities of the LRO. Not so smart after all it seems...

If by "not so smart", you mean that posters here are not going to behave as trolls...as you behave, then you are correct.

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I only keep members waiting because I'm a troll.


There...fixed that for ya...
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Edwardwb1001 on November 11, 2012, 11:12:15 AM
Actually, Andromeda, I'm fully aware that all you really are is a 'home executive'. You might have fooled others into thinking that you have some or other qualification, but you gave it away a while back when you said you were off to 'darn some socks'. But you insult me. I'm not a troll - more of an ogre, in fact.

Incidentally the fact that you can make the comment 'I am much, much smarter than you', not only indicates your unjustified, inflated opinion of yourself, but also your inherent inferiority complex.     
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Edwardwb1001 on November 11, 2012, 11:15:54 AM
No, RAF, I didn't mean that. You are obviously not very 'smart' either. I meant that they are not particularly clever, astute, intelligent, etc.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: RAF on November 11, 2012, 11:16:18 AM
I'm not a troll - more of an ogre, in fact.

No...actually you behave more like a donkey who is braying irrationally...
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 11, 2012, 11:16:49 AM
Actually, Andromeda, I'm fully aware that all you really are is a 'home executive'. You might have fooled others into thinking that you have some or other qualification, but you gave it away a while back when you said you were off to 'darn some socks'.

So either you missed my implication that you are a sockpuppet, or you believe that a woman with multiple physics and astrophysics degrees is incapable of performing some domestic tasks?  Nice combination there, bro.


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But you insult me. I'm not a troll - more of an ogre, in fact.

Nope, you're just a troll.



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Incidentally the fact that you can make the comment 'I am much, much smarter than you', not only indicates your unjustified, inflated opinion of yourself, but also your inherent inferiority complex.   


Ooh, armchair psychology from someone who doesn't know the first thing about it.  I'm so scaaaaaaaared.   ::)
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: RAF on November 11, 2012, 11:17:46 AM
No, RAF, I didn't mean that. You are obviously not very 'smart' either. I meant that they are not paricularly clever, astute, intelligent, etc.

Is this your "strategy"?...insult as many as possible, then get yourself banned?

Actually, that sounds pretty good...keep it up and we can have you out of here by the end of the day...:D
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 11, 2012, 11:19:35 AM
I wonder if Edward thinks we haven't seen this strategy used by Deniers again and again and again....?
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: nomuse on November 11, 2012, 11:33:46 AM
I'm surprised that no members have twigged on why I've asked for the exact resolution capabilities of the LRO. Not so smart after all it seems...Nevermind, I'm sure I'll get my 'marching orders' (as suggested by a particular member) before I actually get around to coming to the point of my question - and you all know how long THAT might take! Of course, I only keep members waiting because I derive tremendous satisfaction from the attention obtained therefrom.

It would be difficult and unproductive to guess.  You could be heading almost anywhere in attempt of achieving a lame "gotcha" based only on your own incomplete understanding.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Jason Thompson on November 11, 2012, 11:35:36 AM
Actually, Andromeda, I'm fully aware that all you really are is a 'home executive'.

Defend that statement or withdraw it. I can assure you Andromeda IS what she says she is on this board. I should know. Exactly what are your qualifications, if you're going to disparage others'?

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You might have fooled others into thinking that you have some or other qualification,

If there is one person on this board Andromeda could categorically NOT fool about her qualifications it is me. Who do you think you are to dismiss her like this?

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but you gave it away a while back when you said you were off to 'darn some socks'.

So academic qualifications preclude the ability to do domestic tasks? I just hung up some laundry and did the washing up. Do you believe I am therefore not qualified?

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But you insult me. I'm not a troll - more of an ogre, in fact.

Ha! Ogres are figures of fear and terror. I have a fluffy white rabbit who's scared of everything at the moment who is more frightening to me than you are.
 
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Incidentally the fact that you can make the comment 'I am much, much smarter than you', not only indicates your unjustified, inflated opinion of yourself, but also your inherent inferiority complex.     

She is much smarter than you. I should know.

The only person with an inflated opinion of himself on this board is you. Get over yourself and grow up.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 11, 2012, 11:42:42 AM
Rah rah!
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Edwardwb1001 on November 11, 2012, 12:01:54 PM
Scared, Andromeda? Why would you be scared? Rah Rah? No doubt a high-school cheer-leader a few years ago. Says a lot.

Insult as many as possible, RAF?  Not that there were many insults directed at me, of course. Just goes to show. Even when persons
have (allegedly) strings of qualifications, it doesn't prevent them from behaving like foolish teenagers, that is, resorting to endless sarcasm and name-calling. This, I have noticed however, is the usual behaviour of Apollo moon-landing believers.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Jason Thompson on November 11, 2012, 12:06:50 PM
Once you have admitted to being a troll, with no purpose other than to wind us up, why should we not pour all the sarcasm and scorn we have on you? You Have certainly earned it.

And no, Andromeda was never a cheerleader either. You really have no idea what you are talking about. You couldn't be further off the mark with your assessment of the people you are dealing with here.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 11, 2012, 12:12:18 PM
Scared, Andromeda? Why would you be scared? Rah Rah? No doubt a high-school cheer-leader a few years ago. Says a lot.

I was being sarcastic.  Also, in my country we don't have "cheerleaders".  Interesting assumptions you keep making about me.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: raven on November 11, 2012, 12:13:49 PM
"Scared"?
No, I believe she is just expressing disgust, if that, at a self admitted troll.
While I do see some Apollo Nutters behave the way you describe, after all this is the Internet, I have only encountered politeness and courtesy here and most other places.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Zakalwe on November 11, 2012, 12:17:47 PM
I reckon that the ban-clock is ticking.

Edward....stop being obnoxious please. It's growing very tedious.

Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: LunarOrbit on November 11, 2012, 12:32:49 PM
I'm surprised that no members have twigged on why I've asked for the exact resolution capabilities of the LRO. Not so smart after all it seems...

Insult noted.

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Of course, I only keep members waiting because I derive tremendous satisfaction from the attention obtained therefrom.

Admission of trolling.

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Actually, Andromeda, I'm fully aware that all you really are is a 'home executive'. You might have fooled others into thinking that you have some or other qualification, but you gave it away a while back when you said you were off to 'darn some socks'.

Another insult. Strike three, you're outta here!

Bye bye, troll.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 11, 2012, 12:40:22 PM
http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2009/6/3/128885632459478653.jpg
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: gillianren on November 11, 2012, 01:17:32 PM
I realize he's gone, but as a person who knows something about psychology, let me observe that telling someone you're smarter than they are is not always a sign of an inferiority complex.  In fact, it's seldom a sign of an inferiority complex.  It is much more likely--as in this case--to be a sign of frustration with someone showing off.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: Andromeda on November 11, 2012, 01:20:31 PM
It's a shame that someone can be accused of having psychological problems simply by exhibiting high self-esteem.  I don't mean so much in this specific case, but more as a general thing.  It's a shame that some people can't allow others to be proud of their achievements.
Title: Re: Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter
Post by: raven on November 11, 2012, 01:52:16 PM
I believe it is what is known as the crab-bucket effect, from the story of a fisherman who didn't need to put a lid on his bucket of crabs, because if one tried to get out the other would grab them back down.
One can have too much of a sense of self importance, but a healthy self esteem is by no means a bad thing.