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Off Topic => General Discussion => Topic started by: Peter B on January 16, 2022, 09:21:28 PM

Title: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: Peter B on January 16, 2022, 09:21:28 PM
Scott Manley has uploaded an impressive video about the recent volcanic eruption in Tonga. As I write this, over 900k views.

But I was astonished at the number of comments from flat earthers.

I seriously had no idea they existed in such numbers!

Gah!
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: smartcooky on January 17, 2022, 03:33:06 AM
Scott Manley has uploaded an impressive video about the recent volcanic eruption in Tonga. As I write this, over 900k views.

But I was astonished at the number of comments from flat earthers.

I seriously had no idea they existed in such numbers!

Gah!

Pound to a pinch of dog turd they will be multiple accounts for the same few people.
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: Peter B on January 17, 2022, 05:45:27 AM
Scott Manley has uploaded an impressive video about the recent volcanic eruption in Tonga. As I write this, over 900k views.

But I was astonished at the number of comments from flat earthers.

I seriously had no idea they existed in such numbers!

Gah!

Pound to a pinch of dog turd they will be multiple accounts for the same few people.

Ah, good point.
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: Zakalwe on January 17, 2022, 05:56:30 AM
There's always been idiots in the world.
It's just that modern communications allow them to spread their nonsense far and wide in ways that were impossible only 40 years ago.
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: onebigmonkey on January 22, 2022, 04:14:54 AM
It occurred to me that EPIC:DSCOVR might have a view of the eruption, and sure enough...

(https://i.imgur.com/g5Dj9tb.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/64G7l8k.jpg)

I also double checked that it wasn't some sort of pre-existing cloud by overlaying DSCOVR's image and stretching it to fit Himawari:

(https://i.imgur.com/15xB5zQ.gif)

:)

The flat earth muppets have no explanation as to how the pressure wave was recorded by met stations world wide in a way totally consistent with a spherical Earth and impossible on a flat one.
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: Peter B on January 22, 2022, 08:45:16 AM
Nice photo matching work, OBM.

Those muppets, as you appropriately describe them, have indeed been silent about the shape of the shockwave. Instead, most of the conspiracism relating to the eruption has been claims that it's either a nuke or a meteorite. The idea that a volcano that's been erupting intermittently for a decade might erupt again apparently is crazy talk - they're convinced that the first H8 image of the eruption is instead showing something heading in for impact.

Yes, I've been slumming it on YT, trying to engage with flat earthers and the odd Apollo denier. There is some industrial-strength denialism and conspiracism at work there.

But the other thing I've noticed is the BS approach of the makers of the flat earth videos. As defined in an article from The Conversation (https://theconversation.com/bullshit-is-everywhere-heres-how-to-deal-with-it-at-work-135661) these people aren't interested in facts, or even in lying, they just say whatever they can to maintain the controversy, keep people coming back to be conned and sucking in more marks. I find this particularly repellant.

Then there's the steady stream of comments (not all of them trolls, I'm sure) from people who've obviously been watching the videos and been convinced by them. The combination of naivete and arrogance is depressing, so I'm also motivated to do my little bit to plant seeds of doubt.

Perhaps the most amusing part of it is when other commenters confidently dismiss flat earthers as crazy left-wingers, only to be informed that all flat earthers who've express political opinions are actually Trump supporters...
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: raven on January 23, 2022, 04:15:09 AM
Perhaps the most amusing part of it is when other commenters confidently dismiss flat earthers as crazy left-wingers, only to be informed that all flat earthers who've express political opinions are actually Trump supporters...
Well, their scientific views are downright prehistoric, so why not their social and political views as well?
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: gillianren on January 23, 2022, 01:09:58 PM
Calling them Muppets is an insult to Muppets.
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: bknight on January 24, 2022, 05:45:02 PM
Calling them Muppets is an insult to Muppets.

Snicker.  :)
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: Peter B on January 25, 2022, 01:58:03 AM
Calling them Muppets is an insult to Muppets.

Calling them [insert term here] is an insult to [insert term here].
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: gillianren on January 25, 2022, 10:47:42 AM
Granted, but the whole point of a lot of Muppets is that they're trying to learn.
Title: Re: Tongan eruption and Scott Manley
Post by: Peter B on January 25, 2022, 03:44:32 PM
Granted, but the whole point of a lot of Muppets is that they're trying to learn.

Yes, fair point.

It's just that statements of that form keep cropping up in comments about flat earthers.