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Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« on: January 20, 2021, 01:54:23 PM »
Today is a good day, its the first time one of my video's got featured by a conspiracy channel!

Was only a matter of time with my popularity. Very proud of myself.

Apparently, the liftoff of Apollo 14 has a leaf blowing away from the rocket exhaust.

Observe:
https://youtu.be/_faJN6MNECY

"With all that's going on in the world, I think we need a good laugh and after seeing what a young child found when looking at the Apollo 14 space footage, I did just that.
 I know it's most likely a piece of the "vacuum proof" construction paper or foil, but it looks just like a leaf blowing in the wind and it seems to have been cut that way by someone trying to leave a clue that it's all fake.
Stanley Kubrick did leave many clues and this could just be another one.
Either way, once you see it, you will have a hard time seeing it as a regular piece of foil or construction paper"
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2021, 01:56:34 PM »
I hate to tell him, but all construction paper is vacuum-proof.
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2021, 02:38:58 PM »
Wow, amazing straw clutching there. Random piece of Mylar happens to look a bit like a leaf in one frame (when literally every other freeze-frame showed it to be nothing like actually leaf-shaped) is a ‘clue’? Oh dear....
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2021, 03:12:44 PM »

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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2021, 03:35:44 PM »
I'm with onebigmonkey on this one.  Packaging from the MESA, maybe.
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2021, 04:08:58 PM »
Should I make a response video, or is that the trap they want me to fall into? Does it give them the validation they don't deserve?
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2021, 04:21:06 PM »
I'm with onebigmonkey on this one.  Packaging from the MESA, maybe.

Or possibly the S-Band cover, which is in place on top of the MET station here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21657506586/in/album-72157656723857913/

in a photo taken after the one I posted earlier and is between EVAs.

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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2021, 04:26:35 PM »
I'll see if I can get 1080p files of the scans and post the relevant frames here, without interpolation.

Those in my video were sourced from 720p files.
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 07:45:41 AM »
Apparently, the liftoff of Apollo 14 has a leaf blowing away from the rocket exhaust.

So they're almost literally clutching at straws now... ;)  (I'll get my coat)
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2021, 05:17:12 PM »
Almost certainly the S-Band cover - this in the ALSJ:

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118:15:38 Mitchell: (Don't) take the MESA with you. (Long Pause)

[Mitchell - "He must have stumbled or momentarily lost his balance. I don't see that in the TV."]
[Al makes his way around the ladder to the south side of the spacecraft to get the S-Band antenna cover.]

118:15:56 Shepard: How's our buddy the redhead (CMP Stu Roosa) doing, Houston? (Pause)
118:16:08 Mitchell: I don't think they heard you.

[Al re-appears behind the ladder, taking the S-Band cover to the MET.]

Here are the two compared:



That cover is then removed for EVA-2 and placed somewhere around the LM. It re-appears in shot when blown by the exhaust.

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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2021, 05:22:55 PM »
Almost certainly the S-Band cover - this in the ALSJ:

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118:15:38 Mitchell: (Don't) take the MESA with you. (Long Pause)

[Mitchell - "He must have stumbled or momentarily lost his balance. I don't see that in the TV."]
[Al makes his way around the ladder to the south side of the spacecraft to get the S-Band antenna cover.]

118:15:56 Shepard: How's our buddy the redhead (CMP Stu Roosa) doing, Houston? (Pause)
118:16:08 Mitchell: I don't think they heard you.

[Al re-appears behind the ladder, taking the S-Band cover to the MET.]

Here are the two compared:



That cover is then removed for EVA-2 and placed somewhere around the LM. It re-appears in shot when blown by the exhaust.
This interpolation was made with a HQ 1080p source, instead of the YouTube 720p source I used previously. Also got better colour grading.

Maybe the extra detail will allow for better viewing.

https://youtu.be/8SVDKtZIWJE


And individual unprocessed 1080p film frames, straight from source video file:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1C9OMgzp_foWwUfY7FOXlzJSnACd1UURI?usp=sharing
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2021, 05:52:52 PM »
Stupid, but at least not the same arguments that we have heard endlessly repeated by now.
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2021, 09:31:15 AM »
Are there lots of leaves in the desert where they faked it? Or was it now faked in Griffith Park?

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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2021, 12:19:33 PM »
Well, the observatory is right there...
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Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2021, 12:48:02 PM »
Of course. The observatory is really a massive rear screen projection unit. That's how they do the background effects over a large area.

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