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General Discussion / Re: The Trump Presidency
« Last post by Peter B on July 23, 2024, 08:22:12 AM » are things going to proceed in the coming months and years, regardless of who wins the election?

I mean:

1. I get the impression Judge Cannon's ruling that the prosecutor in the Mar-a-Lago case wasn't properly appointed is a seriously poor decision and very likely to be overturned on appeal.

2. But if Cannon's ruling is overturned, it will be counter-appealled to the Supreme Court.

3. The Supreme Court majority appears to have chosen pure partisanship in place of legal wisdom in their decisions regarding Presidential immunity and overturning the Chevron Deference.


4. Giving the impression that Judge Cannon's decision will be reinstated regardless of how poor the original decision was.


5. Republican judges and legislatures can make any dang decisions they like, confident the Supreme Court will uphold them.

Would anyone like to dismantle my argument? Please?
The Reality of Apollo / Re: Who remembers the events of that day 55 years ago?
« Last post by bknight on July 21, 2024, 01:14:37 PM »
I remember it well I and ex-wife were living in an apartment in Ducan Oklahoma.  Since it was Sunday for us I was able to tune into the landing watching CBS and Walter Cronkite.  Later same channel and commentator during the EVA.  I was somewhat disappointed in the video but got over this after watching a few minutes.  I watched Buzz move around the lunar surface trying to learn the best way of travel.  All in all, a very good day.
The Reality of Apollo / Re: Who remembers the events of that day 55 years ago?
« Last post by smartcooky on July 21, 2024, 08:50:01 AM »
It was mid afternoon in NZ, and I was a student at Waimea College (Form 3, what you would call 9th grade in the US). Everyone at the school was in the assembly hall listening to the EVA live on 2YA the National AM radio channel at the time. There was no satellite TV available in NZ at the time (the country's first satellite dish at Warkworth wasn't built until 1971) so there was no live broadcast. We had to wait until the RNZAF flew film over from Australia.

I had listened to many of the earlier rocket launches on the Voice of America shortwave broadcasts on a Stewart-Warner Magic Dial shortwave valve radio that I listened to (55 years later, I still have it, it still works). I listened to the launch of Apollo 11 in the early hours of the morning a few days earlier.

ASIDE: I acquired my love for jazz listening to a regular jazz program on shortwave "The VOA Jazz Hour" with Willis Conover. I have never forgotten that voice or the theme... "Take the A Train" by Duke Ellington. My developing love for jazz, and my interest in astronomy and space, are forever linked by my experiences of that time.

The Reality of Apollo / Re: Who remembers the events of that day 55 years ago?
« Last post by Peter B on July 21, 2024, 02:47:12 AM »
No, too young to remember.

The earliest space mission I definitely remember was Apollo-Soyuz. But I remember devouring every book about space in the school library from when I started school, so something must have sunk in. The school library also had a series of space-based fiction books by a guy called Hugh Walter - most of the books were pretty good, but a couple had some technical howlers.
I'm told I was allowed to stay up (in the UK), but I have no recollection of my 5 year old self doing that. Do recall watching the later missions on TV though.
The Reality of Apollo / Re: Who remembers the events of that day 55 years ago?
« Last post by Allan F on July 21, 2024, 01:23:56 AM »
I certainly don't. I was busy crapping my diaper, probably. The later missions I have very faint memory about being on TV, but it may be a fabrication on my part.
The Reality of Apollo / Who remembers the events of that day 55 years ago?
« Last post by Kiwi on July 21, 2024, 12:16:47 AM »
20 or 21 July 1969, depending on where in the world you were. Both the landing and the EVA occurred on 21 July in New Zealand. The times below are NZST.

My alarm went off at 6:50 am and I immediately turned on the radio to hear what was happening. Soon heard that the powered descent was due to start in a bit over an hour. Got to work at the Ministry of Works head office in Wellington at 8 am and the radio was already broadcasting what was happening at the moon.

Starting at 8:05:11 am there were 12 minutes and 29 seconds of hectic and tension-filled activity and lots of jargon that we couldn't understand when Armstrong and Aldrin fired up the Lunar Module's engine and began their powered descent to the moon's surface. There were a bunch of alarms which the folk in Houston figured were not a big deal, and they landed on the moon at 8:17:40 am. A few seconds later Armstrong reported, "Houston, Tranquilty Base here. The Eagle has landed."

Charlie Duke in Houston got a bit tongue-tied when he expressed the relief there: "Roger, Twan – Tranquilty, we copy you on the ground. You got a bunch of guys about to turn blue. We're breathing again. Thanks a lot."

I was too excited to work competently, so used up a half day of annual leave in the afternoon. Wandered around the shops in Lambton Quay and Willis Street and listened to bits and pieces on radios and TV sets. The TV broadcast was just radio plus talking heads in the NZBC studio. No live TV from the moon or overseas as we didn't yet have a satellite link for overseas broadcasts.

In the afternoon at 2:56:15 Armstrong first stepped onto the moon, and Adrin joined him at 3:15:16.

I wandered home around 5:30 and got a good view of the gibbous moon. It was pretty cool to think there were two men on it for the first time ever, and one man orbiting it.

There was no TV where I lived, so I didn't see the broadcast on the 7:30 news.

Manawatu Evening Standard,  Tuesday 22 July 1969, page 6
Quick trip for Apollo film

NZPA  Wellington, July 21
   Some 4-1/2 hours after astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin set foot on the moon today, New Zealanders saw a film of the historic event in a nation-wide television hook-up.
   The 40-minute videotape was rushed to Wellington aboard an RNZAF Canberra bomber.
   The videotape was recorded this afternoon at the Australian Broadcasting Commission's Gore Hill studios north of Sydney.
   The Canberra carrying the tape left Kingsford Smith Airport, Sydney, at 4:15 p.m., and after a 2-3/4-hour flight, touched down at Wellington just before 7 p.m., an NZBC spokesman said tonight.
   It was taken to Channel I in a car accompanied by a Ministry of Transport officer, in time to be shown in the NZBC's 7:30 p.m. news.
   The spokesman said Customs and air traffic officials in both Sydney and Wellington gave the Canberra priority status, allowing it to clear formalities in the minimum time.
   He said the corporation had not known until late this afternoon what time the tape would be available.  The historic screening was rescheduled three times.
   If the Canberra had been unable to land at Wellington it would have gone to Auckland, and the national network hook-up made from there.

The Hoax Theory / Re: Our favourite "Dr" turned up in a debate recently
« Last post by TimberWolfAu on July 13, 2024, 12:49:33 PM »
Got curious, emailed MCToon.

Apparently it's still on the books for 23 July, should be on Modern Day Debate again.
The Hoax Theory / Re: Our favourite "Dr" turned up in a debate recently
« Last post by TimberWolfAu on July 13, 2024, 03:46:07 AM »
Knew I'd seen a recent reference to the debate with Marcus, I Was just looking in the wrong spot.

Maybe I should send him the story on when Marcus had a met up with the BIS (British Interplanetary Society)?
The Hoax Theory / Re: Our favourite "Dr" turned up in a debate recently
« Last post by raven on July 12, 2024, 03:40:14 PM »
Like a pigeon declaring victory in chess because it defecated on the board, and the other player quit in disgust.
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