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Off Topic => General Discussion => Topic started by: LionKing on October 19, 2019, 01:04:14 PM

Title: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 19, 2019, 01:04:14 PM
In our whole history, this has never happened before. That the people have stood up in ALL parts of Lebanon to call for their own political parties to step down and return the stolen money, is something unprecedented and is a light of hope that we have been dreaming of as something impossible to happen. But it happened. It is not an issue only of whatsapp tax ( a devilish idea that the government came up with), it is years and years of poverty and billions of dollars of debts, it is a compilation of corruption in all sectors and areas: pollution, electricity, the waste crisis that is not solved till now, the very high cost of hospitalization, jobless rates and migration, and increasing costs of essential goods like bread and benzine..amongst sooo many other issues.

The money they stole in billions are in Switzerland  banks..I wish the free world would return it to us. I am afraid their puppet masters (USA, KSA, Syria, Iran,Qatar..) w9n't let them go..i wish they would be pressured from their people not to interfere to save them. Prisons should open to welcome them and a new blood is needed. They start to do their crazed conspiracies, sending people to do violence so they spoil the revolution. It has been filmed how the police walk with them normal, with their men holding sticks, then they act as if they are catching them once they think the people are watching. They are bankrupt.. if i just want to go into details of   how they are ruling in corruption, I can write a book.

Now we have went into previous demonstrations, but it was people against people.. now we are all one. I hope that the Tsunami will wash all the filth and the coming days will be better..just support our cause whenever you have the chance to.

What comes after this people's wake up will not be the same as what preceded it..
As our dear Fairouz says in the song:

"They asked me what is happening the country of feast
it is planted all around with fire and guns
I told them our country is being born again
Lebanon the dignity and the stubborn people"

A new birth it is God may, Fairouz.. your songs to Lebanon one day will become true
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 23, 2019, 06:28:54 AM
It is being circulated on fb that the washington post said the stolen money is 800 billion dollars. I doubt this and could not reach it on the net. Is anyone a regular reader of Washington Post? Did you see anything  similar? Thnx
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 26, 2019, 02:54:43 PM
Also about recharging your cellphones: how much does it cost each time you recharge ?  How much does it cost to charge 3g? What if the recharging finished? Does the line get burnt if you do not recharge each month?thnx
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: gillianren on October 27, 2019, 12:01:48 PM
If by "recharge" you mean get more minutes, I'm on a month-to-month plan that costs me about $30 every time I add minutes.
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 27, 2019, 01:42:18 PM
By recharge I mean units relevant to money you pay. While you speak on cellphone you start loosing them. Plus, we pay from them 10 dollars to have 3G if we are not on wifi.

If we run out of them and  we can't call, we have to recharge within 5 days or the line gets burnt. When you loose these units, does your line get burnt within days if you don't recharge?
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: Obviousman on October 27, 2019, 04:49:20 PM
By recharge I mean units relevant to money you pay. While you speak on cellphone you start loosing them. Plus, we pay from them 10 dollars to have 3G if we are not on wifi.

If we run out of them and  we can't call, we have to recharge within 5 days or the line gets burnt. When you loose these units, does your line get burnt within days if you don't recharge?

(Bolding mine) Sorry to be a pedant but this is a pet peeve of mine. You mean LOSING and LOSE.

loose
/luːs/

adjective

1. not firmly or tightly fixed in place; detached or able to be detached. "a loose tooth"

Similar: not fixed in place; not secure; insecure; unsecured; unattached; detached; unfastened; wobbly; rickety; unsteady; movable

Opposite: secure; tight

2. (of a garment) not fitting tightly or closely.

lose
/luːz/

verb

verb: lose; 3rd person present: loses; past tense: lost; past participle: lost; gerund or present participle: losing

1. be deprived of or cease to have or retain (something). "I've lost my appetite"
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 28, 2019, 07:18:24 AM
Yes lose is meant. Sorry
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: gillianren on October 28, 2019, 11:18:33 AM
I'm actually not sure how long I'd have before my phone number got reassigned.  But most people in the US with cell phones have contracts and aren't month-to-month or what have you.
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 28, 2019, 11:29:19 AM
I'm actually not sure how long I'd have before my phone number got reassigned.  But most people in the US with cell phones have contracts and aren't month-to-month or what have you.

I see. Thnx
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 29, 2019, 07:23:22 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157083125019440&id=24369314439

The devilish sectarian system reassured in the Taef accord after the civil war..one of the aims of the revolution is its destruction.
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: rocketman on October 30, 2019, 03:21:12 PM
It is being circulated on fb that the washington post said the stolen money is 800 billion dollars. I doubt this and could not reach it on the net. Is anyone a regular reader of Washington Post? Did you see anything  similar? Thnx

I could not find anything on the internet either, and am not a regular reader of the Washington Post.

However, Lebanon's 2017 GDP was just over $50 billion according to the World Bank, and it was much lower in the couple of decades before.  So 800 billion would be several decades worth of the entire country's GDP.  I'm not sure how corrupt things are there, but this seems rather extreme.

This article, https://time.com/5707097/lebanon-protests/, does reference "hundreds of billions", but it is sourced only as "Lebanese protestors say".
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 30, 2019, 04:45:12 PM
It is being circulated on fb that the washington post said the stolen money is 800 billion dollars. I doubt this and could not reach it on the net. Is anyone a regular reader of Washington Post? Did you see anything  similar? Thnx

I could not find anything on the internet either, and am not a regular reader of the Washington Post.

However, Lebanon's 2017 GDP was just over $50 billion according to the World Bank, and it was much lower in the couple of decades before.  So 800 billion would be several decades worth of the entire country's GDP.  I'm not sure how corrupt things are there, but this seems rather extreme.

This article, https://time.com/5707097/lebanon-protests/, does reference "hundreds of billions", but it is sourced only as "Lebanese protestors say".

Yes, I ask because it seemed rather much to me. Plus, I read different versions of this story. Sometimes that it is thefts since the start of the state, other times that these are the total of Lebanese population money in banks around the world.. they also refer the news to the American Treasury ministry, Wall Street Journal..

The fact still remains, however, that there is a lot of corruption and wasting of money if not direct thefts.


May God help us get back that stolen money from them so we can pay the debts. Someone suggested that signing a petition for bank account transparency of politicians and submitting it to the Swiss embassy would motivate Switzerland to uncover their bank accounts because they out their money there. I am not sure if this is correct too.

Thanks for your reply!
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: rocketman on October 30, 2019, 06:08:16 PM
May God help us get back that stolen money from them so we can pay the debts. Someone suggested that signing a petition for bank account transparency of politicians and submitting it to the Swiss embassy would motivate Switzerland to uncover their bank accounts because they out their money there. I am not sure if this is correct too.

I don't think Switzerland has much bank secrecy left; they've been defeated by the Americans.

Oddly, the United States, which is working vigorously to force every country in the world to report to their own tax authorities, is also now the world's largest tax haven.
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on October 31, 2019, 08:42:15 AM
We have some leaks by L'Orient Le Jour journal, but we want all the names. The revolution's slogan is kellon yaani kellon= All of them means all of them.
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on November 06, 2019, 03:05:11 PM
https://www.facebook.com/7976226799/posts/10158062395196800/

 ;D

It is good that people could create some fun from all the sadness..
The other stories of people crying because they are unable to get their loved ones to hospitals or getting proper medication and basic life needs were devastating...still life continues
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on November 17, 2019, 05:46:11 PM
When it rains, do the roads flood and cause a huge traffic jam in your countries? Is this normal to have this out there or does it cause some minister to resign if it happens?
Might be a stupid question, but some mentioned long time ago that such floods happen outside where the infrastructure should be good and it is not that it is not that abnormal ..
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: Zakalwe on November 18, 2019, 07:18:29 AM
When it rains, do the roads flood and cause a huge traffic jam in your countries? Is this normal to have this out there or does it cause some minister to resign if it happens?
Might be a stupid question, but some mentioned long time ago that such floods happen outside where the infrastructure should be good and it is not that it is not that abnormal ..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-50451393
https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/warnings

Our infrastructures are not able to cope with the early effects of climate change. This level of flooding is now a yearly event in the UK
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: gillianren on November 18, 2019, 10:56:28 AM
I mean, the US has serious infrastructure problems, but I also live in a region with a lot of rivers.  We have regular floods that are only getting worse.
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: LionKing on November 18, 2019, 01:19:48 PM
I am talking about areas where rains are expected.. no rivers ..
Title: Re: Long Live the Revolution
Post by: gillianren on November 19, 2019, 10:54:27 AM
I also live in a rainforest.  Our flooding comes when heavy rains along the rivers' lengths raises the water level there.