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Title: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: BertieSlack on September 14, 2021, 03:15:34 AM
Has anybody got a screenshot from an astronomy app or similar showing that the planned Apollo 13 landing site at Fra Mauro was on the dayside of the terminator at the planned landing time? I want to debunk the hoaxnut myth that it would have still been in darkness.
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: Zakalwe on September 14, 2021, 04:15:55 AM
Has anybody got a screenshot from an astronomy app or similar showing that the planned Apollo 13 landing site at Fra Mauro was on the dayside of the terminator at the planned landing time? I want to debunk the hoaxnut myth that it would have still been in darkness.


What resolution are you looking for?
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: Zakalwe on September 14, 2021, 04:50:54 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8z89TJW1/A13-at-Touchdown.jpg)

Here you go. This is terminator at touchdown.

The tool to use is the Virtual Moon Atlas which can use 60 metre resolution maps from LRO WAC as well as LOLA, LOPAM and Chang'e.

Stellarium is another great tool which will also give you a view on the lunar surface so you can check the Sun's location in the Lunar sky at the time.

https://stellarium.org/
https://ap-i.net/avl/en/start
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: BertieSlack on September 14, 2021, 05:05:39 AM
What resolution are you looking for?
Something that will be clear enough in a 720p Youtube video
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: BertieSlack on September 14, 2021, 05:07:28 AM
Here you go. This is terminator at touchdown.
That is brilliant. Many thanks indeed.
Have you got a YT channel or blog I can give a shout-out to in my video?
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: Zakalwe on September 14, 2021, 05:27:09 AM
Here you go. This is terminator at touchdown.
That is brilliant. Many thanks indeed.
Have you got a YT channel or blog I can give a shout-out to in my video?

No worries, glad to help.
I have a YT channel, but it's not worth linking to! ;D
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: onebigmonkey on September 14, 2021, 11:32:26 AM
I know the usual suspects are claiming NASA pulled its original press releases once the 'error' was uncovered. I guess they got Walter Kronkite to re-voice this:

Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: BertieSlack on September 14, 2021, 02:19:17 PM
I know the usual suspects are claiming NASA pulled its original press releases once the 'error' was uncovered. I guess they got Walter Kronkite to re-voice this:



I'll make sure to put this in my debunk too.
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: onebigmonkey on September 14, 2021, 03:11:29 PM
Couple of newspaper front pages detailing the timeline up to descent orbit insertion - weirdly, they match what's in the press kit. It's almost as if NASA issued them to the press so they could report them to the public...

https://accessnepa.com/pages-from-the-past/apollo-13-day-three-we-had-a-problem

https://accessnepa.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/The_Tribune_Mon__Apr_13__1970_w.jpg

https://accessnepa.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/The_Times_Tribune_Mon__Apr_13__1970_w.jpg

There are bound to be actual newspapers from around launch somewhere - still looking for one that gives a "due to land at..."!

Then there'll be the actual published flight plans, cuff check lists and so on - that's a lot of document shredding and re-printing!

it's faint, but it's visible:

https://www.thetimes-tribune.com/news/50-years-ago---apollo-13-lifts-off-for-mission-to-the-moon/collection_5b9821ac-424e-5c72-9e36-41e28e0b0cf6.html#2

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/thetimes-tribune.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/bb/7bb52deb-1e9c-5f4c-a5ef-f4dbda909116/5edfad181ae78.image.jpg
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: bknight on September 15, 2021, 07:55:24 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8z89TJW1/A13-at-Touchdown.jpg)

Here you go. This is terminator at touchdown.

The tool to use is the Virtual Moon Atlas which can use 60 metre resolution maps from LRO WAC as well as LOLA, LOPAM and Chang'e.

Stellarium is another great tool which will also give you a view on the lunar surface so you can check the Sun's location in the Lunar sky at the time.

https://stellarium.org/
https://ap-i.net/avl/en/start
Nice map but where was the planned landing site?
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: Zakalwe on September 16, 2021, 03:13:32 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8z89TJW1/A13-at-Touchdown.jpg)

Here you go. This is terminator at touchdown.

The tool to use is the Virtual Moon Atlas which can use 60 metre resolution maps from LRO WAC as well as LOLA, LOPAM and Chang'e.

Stellarium is another great tool which will also give you a view on the lunar surface so you can check the Sun's location in the Lunar sky at the time.

https://stellarium.org/
https://ap-i.net/avl/en/start
Nice map but where was the planned landing site?
The red dot indicates the planned landing site.
Title: Re: Apollo 13 landing site
Post by: bknight on September 17, 2021, 05:34:39 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/8z89TJW1/A13-at-Touchdown.jpg)

Here you go. This is terminator at touchdown.

The tool to use is the Virtual Moon Atlas which can use 60 metre resolution maps from LRO WAC as well as LOLA, LOPAM and Chang'e.

Stellarium is another great tool which will also give you a view on the lunar surface so you can check the Sun's location in the Lunar sky at the time.

https://stellarium.org/
https://ap-i.net/avl/en/start
Nice map but where was the planned landing site?
The red dot indicates the planned landing site.
Ah I didn't enlarge the map and couldn't see the red dot.
Thanks