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Title: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: apollo16uvc on January 20, 2021, 01:54:23 PM
Today is a good day, its the first time one of my video's got featured by a conspiracy channel!

Was only a matter of time with my popularity. Very proud of myself.

Apparently, the liftoff of Apollo 14 has a leaf blowing away from the rocket exhaust.

Observe:


"With all that's going on in the world, I think we need a good laugh and after seeing what a young child found when looking at the Apollo 14 space footage, I did just that.
 I know it's most likely a piece of the "vacuum proof" construction paper or foil, but it looks just like a leaf blowing in the wind and it seems to have been cut that way by someone trying to leave a clue that it's all fake.
Stanley Kubrick did leave many clues and this could just be another one.
Either way, once you see it, you will have a hard time seeing it as a regular piece of foil or construction paper"
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: JayUtah on January 20, 2021, 01:56:34 PM
I hate to tell him, but all construction paper is vacuum-proof.
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: Jason Thompson on January 20, 2021, 02:38:58 PM
Wow, amazing straw clutching there. Random piece of Mylar happens to look a bit like a leaf in one frame (when literally every other freeze-frame showed it to be nothing like actually leaf-shaped) is a ‘clue’? Oh dear....
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: onebigmonkey on January 20, 2021, 03:12:44 PM
Flerfers  ::)

I'd put money on it being this

(https://i.imgur.com/lPUOJLv.png)

in AS14-66-9306

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21672156762/in/album-72157656723857913/
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: JayUtah on January 20, 2021, 03:35:44 PM
I'm with onebigmonkey on this one.  Packaging from the MESA, maybe.
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: apollo16uvc on January 20, 2021, 04:08:58 PM
Should I make a response video, or is that the trap they want me to fall into? Does it give them the validation they don't deserve?
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: onebigmonkey on January 20, 2021, 04:21:06 PM
I'm with onebigmonkey on this one.  Packaging from the MESA, maybe.

Or possibly the S-Band cover, which is in place on top of the MET station here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21657506586/in/album-72157656723857913/

in a photo taken after the one I posted earlier and is between EVAs.
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: apollo16uvc on January 20, 2021, 04:26:35 PM
I'll see if I can get 1080p files of the scans and post the relevant frames here, without interpolation.

Those in my video were sourced from 720p files.
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: molesworth on January 21, 2021, 07:45:41 AM
Apparently, the liftoff of Apollo 14 has a leaf blowing away from the rocket exhaust.

So they're almost literally clutching at straws now... ;)  (I'll get my coat)
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: onebigmonkey on January 21, 2021, 05:17:12 PM
Almost certainly the S-Band cover - this in the ALSJ:

Quote
118:15:38 Mitchell: (Don't) take the MESA with you. (Long Pause)

[Mitchell - "He must have stumbled or momentarily lost his balance. I don't see that in the TV."]
[Al makes his way around the ladder to the south side of the spacecraft to get the S-Band antenna cover.]

118:15:56 Shepard: How's our buddy the redhead (CMP Stu Roosa) doing, Houston? (Pause)
118:16:08 Mitchell: I don't think they heard you.

[Al re-appears behind the ladder, taking the S-Band cover to the MET.]

Here are the two compared:

(https://i.imgur.com/31WdFRp.png)

That cover is then removed for EVA-2 and placed somewhere around the LM. It re-appears in shot when blown by the exhaust.
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: apollo16uvc on February 18, 2021, 05:22:55 PM
Almost certainly the S-Band cover - this in the ALSJ:

Quote
118:15:38 Mitchell: (Don't) take the MESA with you. (Long Pause)

[Mitchell - "He must have stumbled or momentarily lost his balance. I don't see that in the TV."]
[Al makes his way around the ladder to the south side of the spacecraft to get the S-Band antenna cover.]

118:15:56 Shepard: How's our buddy the redhead (CMP Stu Roosa) doing, Houston? (Pause)
118:16:08 Mitchell: I don't think they heard you.

[Al re-appears behind the ladder, taking the S-Band cover to the MET.]

Here are the two compared:

(https://i.imgur.com/31WdFRp.png)

That cover is then removed for EVA-2 and placed somewhere around the LM. It re-appears in shot when blown by the exhaust.
This interpolation was made with a HQ 1080p source, instead of the YouTube 720p source I used previously. Also got better colour grading.

Maybe the extra detail will allow for better viewing.




And individual unprocessed 1080p film frames, straight from source video file:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1C9OMgzp_foWwUfY7FOXlzJSnACd1UURI?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: apollo16uvc on February 18, 2021, 05:52:52 PM
Stupid, but at least not the same arguments that we have heard endlessly repeated by now.
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: Glom on February 24, 2021, 09:31:15 AM
Are there lots of leaves in the desert where they faked it? Or was it now faked in Griffith Park?
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: JayUtah on February 24, 2021, 12:19:33 PM
Well, the observatory is right there...
Title: Re: Leaf in Apollo 14 liftoff 16mm?
Post by: Glom on February 24, 2021, 12:48:02 PM
Of course. The observatory is really a massive rear screen projection unit. That's how they do the background effects over a large area.

(We're putting more thought into this conspiracy theory than the conspiracists.)