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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #60 on: October 24, 2015, 01:39:49 PM »
Somebody posted a long list of the geologists who had examined the lunar samples and asked the HB to name the individuals he was calling liars.  My recollection is that the HB quickly changed the subject.

Any idea where this list is? I'd love to have a copy for my own personal use... Heh.
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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2015, 01:42:47 PM »
Somebody posted a long list of the geologists who had examined the lunar samples and asked the HB to name the individuals he was calling liars.  My recollection is that the HB quickly changed the subject.

Any idea where this list is? I'd love to have a copy for my own personal use... Heh.

A few of them are named here

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/1969/12/moon-landing/moon-rock-text


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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2015, 02:15:29 PM »
The rings may have been used to stow the PLSS in the LM.
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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2015, 03:00:11 PM »
Somebody posted a long list of the geologists who had examined the lunar samples and asked the HB to name the individuals he was calling liars.  My recollection is that the HB quickly changed the subject.

Any idea where this list is? I'd love to have a copy for my own personal use... Heh.

A few of them are named here

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/1969/12/moon-landing/moon-rock-text

Thanks. I also see that a goodly portion of the list is noted in the first posts of this thread. That's what I get for not reading the whole thread... <grrrr>
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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2015, 03:09:13 PM »
I have a copy of that as a physical magazine. Definitely one of my prized possessions.

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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2015, 04:42:27 AM »
Somebody posted a long list of the geologists who had examined the lunar samples and asked the HB to name the individuals he was calling liars.  My recollection is that the HB quickly changed the subject.

Any idea where this list is? I'd love to have a copy for my own personal use... Heh.

A few of them are named here

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/1969/12/moon-landing/moon-rock-text

Thanks. I also see that a goodly portion of the list is noted in the first posts of this thread. That's what I get for not reading the whole thread... <grrrr>


If you have a look at the Lunar Sourcebook site, the References section has 62 pages of listed published papers.
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/books/lunar_sourcebook/pdf/References.pdf
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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2015, 06:43:15 AM »
Somebody posted a long list of the geologists who had examined the lunar samples and asked the HB to name the individuals he was calling liars.  My recollection is that the HB quickly changed the subject.

Any idea where this list is? I'd love to have a copy for my own personal use... Heh.

Oops, forgot to reply to this when first I saw it.

The list is in the Apollo 11 Press Kit (published prior to the mission), pages 220-241.
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a11/a11prskit.html

I posted the list at the Bad Astronomy Bulletin Board in January 2005,
http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthread.php?15935-Moon-Rocks-List-of-Investigators-July-1969&highlight=Moon+Rocks+-+List+of+Investigators%2C+July+1969

Then here at ApolloHoax in PeterB's thread "Rocks from the Moon" in July 2005.
http://apollohoax.proboards.com/post/9250/thread
Note that there are two consecutive posts with the names, plus details of the scientists' proposed investigations.

Margamatix was the HB. He handwaved the list away, as HB's often do.

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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2015, 07:56:32 AM »
I have several volumes of the Lunar Science Conference proceedings, chock full of contemporary scientific papers based on the lunar samples from scientists all over the world.

Not the most rivetting of reads, but great for demonstrating that the samples were available to the scientific community and that the data from their analyses were publicly available.

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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2015, 08:00:31 AM »
I have several volumes of the Lunar Science Conference proceedings, chock full of contemporary scientific papers based on the lunar samples from scientists all over the world.

Not the most rivetting of reads, but great for demonstrating that the samples were available to the scientific community and that the data from their analyses were publicly available.
Email them the blunder, maybe he can get an understanding
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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2015, 01:41:47 PM »
I have several volumes of the Lunar Science Conference proceedings, chock full of contemporary scientific papers based on the lunar samples from scientists all over the world.

Not the most rivetting of reads, but great for demonstrating that the samples were available to the scientific community and that the data from their analyses were publicly available.
Email them the blunder, maybe he can get an understanding

The Blunder? An understanding?

Firstly he has to want to understand, and I don't think he does... too far down the HB path not to lose a massive amount of face. His own ego is more important to him than the truth!

Secondly, he has to be capable of understanding, and I don't think he is. If his writings and the commentary of his YT videos are any indication, he cannot think clearly enough to understand.

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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2015, 01:45:51 PM »
What he can also want to do is buy hard copies of the conference proceedings to prove his point - like I did.

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Re: Jet Wintzer movie "MOON HOAX NOW"
« Reply #71 on: November 12, 2015, 03:00:35 PM »
I have several volumes of the Lunar Science Conference proceedings, chock full of contemporary scientific papers based on the lunar samples from scientists all over the world.

Not the most rivetting of reads, but great for demonstrating that the samples were available to the scientific community and that the data from their analyses were publicly available.
Email them the blunder, maybe he can get an understanding

The Blunder? An understanding?

Firstly he has to want to understand, and I don't think he does... too far down the HB path not to lose a massive amount of face. His own ego is more important to him than the truth!

Secondly, he has to be capable of understanding, and I don't think he is. If his writings and the commentary of his YT videos are any indication, he cannot think clearly enough to understand.

"I have found you an argument; but I am not obliged to find you an understanding."
Samuel Johnson, June 1784
I keep the faith that he will grow up and rethink his stupid associations with the beliefs of Kaysing and/or Renen
Truth needs no defense.  Nobody can take those footsteps I made on the surface of the moon away from me.
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