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Apollo Discussions => The Hoax Theory => Topic started by: onebigmonkey on September 12, 2022, 12:53:05 AM
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Sibrel's book 'Moon Man' has a fanciful section that recounts an alleged deathbed confession from an unnamed security chief at Cannon Air Force Base. The story is that LBJ himself turned up to supervise the construction and filming of Apollo 11 and all were sworn to secrecy:
The person in the video is supposedly the son who received the confession, who himself has been threatened and is now making his own deathbed story.
His version is pretty much word for word what Sibrel has in his book, and he seems to have been the one to have contacted Bart. It would be wrong of me to suggest that the fee for this information went on meth.
Have fun with it.
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Yes, that would have been easy to cover up.
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Now that I'm not posting on my phone I can give a bit more detail.
I'm not going to reproduce it verbatim to avoid copyright isses, but you can read the bulk of the allegations made in Sibrel's book here:
https://stratagemsoftheright.blogspot.com/2021/09/exposing-lyndon-johnsons-apollo-fraud.html
Search for the following text to get to the meat of it and avoid Sibrel's fantasy life of CIA abduction and men in black skullduggery (and his flat out lie that Armstrong confessed to him privately just before conveniently dying):
"Now I have something major to disclose"
These are the same allegations repeated almost verbatim by the person in the video.
Now, Sibrel presents his story as if it was recounted to him in person, whereas this video makes it clear that it was "My dad told me...". He was also the one who supposedly contacted Bart.
He also claims that the person involved, now supposedly identified as Cyrus Eugene Akers, was the "Chief of Security" at the base. Akers' own gravestone (not hard to find) identifies him as a staff sergeant in the Air Police. Those are the first easy holes to pick in the story.
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The video indicates the fake moon landing filming was done in June 1968. That puts it before the first manned Apollo mission, Apollo 7.
When was the crew of Apollo 11 announced? I think this alternate timeline indicates that Deke Slayton had no choice to choose Armstrong and Aldrin since they had already filmed the moon landing. 8)
This makes we wonder what I will say on my deathbed.
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There have already been posts showing LBJ at his ranch in June 1968, a mere 3 hour helicopter ride away from Cannon AFB ::)
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It's hilarous. The claim made on facebook (where the blunder and others are touting this as yet another smoking gun) is that LBJ's guests didn't exist and the diary entries are faked.
The entry for June 1st (the one specifically referenced by the facebook contributor) shows one of the guests as Gregory Peck.
He's seen here on May 31st:
These people will clutch at any straw.
Perusal of the diary entries for the entirety of June shows LBJ's activities minute by minute, including public appearances - the majority of them at the White House. There was also the small matter of RFK's assassination to deal with. The idea that a sitting president could just vanish for a few days to oversee something that he would not be a part of (having already decided not to stand 2 months earlier) is utterly ridiculous.
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It's hilarous.
I'm already having fun on Twitter with this.
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It's hilarous.
I'm already having fun on Twitter with this.
People will micro-analyse every shadow on every pebble but won't question blatant fabrications. Apparently we're the ones with cognitive dissonance ::)
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Gene Akers seemingly is a Pink Floyd obsessive, according to an old LinkedIn page, which would explain the name change.
He did indeed die in February this year. His house did indeed mysteriously burn down - in October 2021. The video where he claims he lost everything in a fire of unknown origin was supposedly recorded in April 2020. The GoFundMe for that
https://www.gofundme.com/f/fire-destroyed-home-anything-helps
Didn't raise what they hoped.
Follow the money...
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Seems he (and his wife) were also behind a film production company registered in Florida - Brain Storm productions LLC.
Film production you say...
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The video indicates the fake moon landing filming was done in June 1968.
Have you got a timestamp for that? Cheers.
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The video indicates the fake moon landing filming was done in June 1968.
Have you got a timestamp for that? Cheers.
The June dates are given on screen at 8:19, I don't think he specifically says them.
To be fair, he also doesn't specify which fire totally destroys stuff. It might not have been the one in 2021. What are the odds?
Someone else on the web identified that the phrase 'slam dunk'was first coined in the early 70s, so wouldn't have been used by LBJ.
It isn't difficult to find that he was in quite a successful Pink Floyd tribute band, but his social.media has nothing to suggest any conspiratorial bent.
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Now that I'm not posting on my phone I can give a bit more detail.
I'm not going to reproduce it verbatim to avoid copyright isses, but you can read the bulk of the allegations made in Sibrel's book here:
https://stratagemsoftheright.blogspot.com/2021/09/exposing-lyndon-johnsons-apollo-fraud.html
Hmmm. The author of that piece states on the page that:-
NOTE: This piece analyzes Bart Sibrel's September-2021-published book, Moon Man: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List, spoiling some of its shocking contents. Because the book is being digitally shadow-banned from searches, I aim to boost this critical information to the widest audience possible
I've no idea what "digitally shadow-banned from searches" means, but when I Googled the title, the very first hit was a link to where you can buy Sibrel's book on Amazon. So they're not doing a very good job of "digitally shadow-banning".
In the analysis of the Apollo 15 photos on the same page, he states:-
Very little visual-spatial intelligence is needed to understand the Apollo photographs were not taken on the Moon, but in some type of studio.
Sadly, that is where every Apollo hoax believer fails when it comes to analysing photos: you DO need visual spatial intelligence, otherwise you'll come to wrong conclusions.
PS Sorry I've been away for a while, NASA stopped sending me shill-cheques when Constellation got cancelled. Thank you Artemis, may the good times roll! (I'll grab me coat).
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Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel. It seems that all the education he received about rocks and space have not really broken through his thick skull. I'm wondering whether Sibrel may have tipped him some percentage on the royalties from the sales of his future
toilet paper book.
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Michael James Myers has now transcribed and 'analysed' the video here:
http://stratagemsoftheright.blogspot.com/2022/09/analysis-of-moon-hoax-confession-made.html
In reading that I spotted that I was mistaken in thinking that Sibrel initially said he'd heard the story directly from Cyrus Akers. He does make it clear that he only ever had this as second hand testimony.
Apologies for any confusion.
In my reading around last night I'm convinced that the reason Sibrel has latched onto June 1-3 is because those are the only dates that he can pick where LBJ wasn't publicly recorded in the White House or other locations. Unfortunately for him there are videos of him with his Ranch guests on some of those days (edit: specifically June 1st, the only day Mr Gilmore actually claims LBJ was there ).
Edit to add: Myers has now cottoned on to the slam dunk claim and suggests that it might be from 1969. Which is, the last time I looked, not 1968. Apologists for the claim think Mr Gilmore could just be misremembering that one specific thing but somehow has perfect recall of everything else. Uh-huh...
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Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel.
Some hoaxnuts on Twitter are whining that the video has "been taken down by Youtube". Dunno which channel they're referring to tho'.
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Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel.
Some hoaxnuts on Twitter are whining that the video has "been taken down by Youtube". Dunno which channel they're referring to tho'.
The one in the OP has been removed by the uploader. Should we start playing the ultra dramatic music?
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Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel.
Some hoaxnuts on Twitter are whining that the video has "been taken down by Youtube". Dunno which channel they're referring to tho'.
Might be worth grabbing an original before a modified version with fewer gaping holes appears.
Interesting browsing the names listed. Arthur Trudeau retired long before 1968. Robert Emmeneger worked in advertising at the time and is a UFO nut. Grant Noory doesn't seem to exist, but a too young George Noory does, also a UFO nut.
Gilmore insists he's telling the truth. Every liar ever said the same
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Rarely is a sporting term so disputed. Jarrah is now railing against propagandists saying the term slam dunk post-dates the apollo era, citing a Web article that says the move was banned before Apollo.
Sorry Jarrah. The move may have been banned before the missions, but the term describing the move didn't exist when it's claimed LBJ used it. LBJ also didn't use it because he was never involved in the farcical nonsense Sibrel has either concocted or fallen for here.
Seeing as I'm here, the other claim being made is that a record of LBJ's visit to Cannon AFB has somehow been expunged not just from their website, but every Wayback machine record, every Presidential diary entry, everywhere, solely as a result of Sibrel's 'investigation'. Or is it just that such a report never existed because it never happened, and Sibrel just needs some sense knocking into him again?
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Sibrel's book 'Moon Man' has a fanciful section that recounts an alleged deathbed confession from an unnamed security chief at Cannon Air Force Base. The story is that LBJ himself turned up to supervise the construction and filming of Apollo 11 and all were sworn to secrecy:
The person in the video is supposedly the son who received the confession, who himself has been threatened and is now making his own deathbed story.
His version is pretty much word for word what Sibrel has in his book, and he seems to have been the one to have contacted Bart. It would be wrong of me to suggest that the fee for this information went on meth.
Have fun with it.
Does he claim that Nixon showed up to record his message to them, as well?
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Nutters. I just no longer have time for them.
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Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel.
Some hoaxnuts on Twitter are whining that the video has "been taken down by Youtube". Dunno which channel they're referring to tho'.
The one in the OP has been removed by the uploader. Should we start playing the ultra dramatic music?
(https://c.tenor.com/OK-dmx5cqJkAAAAC/dramatic-music.gif)
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Nutters. I just no longer have time for them.
It's getting like 'Cluedo' now. It used to be 'Kubrick in Nevada with the front projection' and now it's 'Johnson in New Mexico with the slamdunk'
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Nutters. I just no longer have time for them.
It's getting like 'Cluedo' now. It used to be 'Kubrick in Nevada with the front projection' and now it's 'Johnson in New Mexico with the slamdunk'
;D
Any military historians out there? Sibrel claims Cannon was chosen because it was the home of the 'Special Operations Command Center', something that didn't seem to exist until 1983, and which was preceded by Tactical Air Command in Langley.
I'm also puzzled by Joe Kerwen's inclusion in the list of approved personnel. He was already booked onto Skylab at this point (or the Apollo Applications Program as it was then).
So, the story so far: a dead guy says a dead guy told him stuff, but the dog ate his homework, spooky music etc etc. The dead guy's house burns down and their family have to beg for money to help out, even having to sell the family dogs when he passes on, but no money changed hands to help Bart sell his book. Uh-huh...
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So, the story so far: a dead guy says a dead guy told him stuff, but the dog ate his homework, spooky music etc etc. The dead guy's house burns down and their family have to beg for money to help out, even having to sell the family dogs when he passes on, but no money changed hands to help Bart sell his book. Uh-huh...
It's dead guys all the way down...
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Wow. Just wow. Not only did Mr Akers senior's obituary get mysteriously added to the 'find a grave' site not long after Sibrel's video, but now someone has added a screenshot of Sibrel's newly uploaded video, complete with link to Sibrel's site on it.
There's me trying to be respectful to the family by not revealing their details and someone does this!
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/48955542/cyrus-e-akers
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Well, the key to all this seems to be Cyrus E Akers' story, and that is proving very difficult to pin down. A quick free trial at ancestry,com is helpful, to a point.
What it reveals is that Staff Sergeant Akers left the military in 1973. That's it!
What we can glean from his widow's records (she is still alive it would seem) is that she didn't seem to stray far from her home state of Michigan until moving to Florida with Cyrus in 1977. There's an interesting record of her returning to McGuire AFB from Germany with her son in 1959, but that's all we get - there's no record of Cyrus travelling with her. The passenger manifest lists the number of military personnel but they don't seem to need to complete entry cards. Her home address listed on the immigration card is a PO Box in Kinross township in Michigan. This township is not far from Rudyard, from whence the Akers' migrated to Florida in 1977. In 1960 she is listed as a book keeper for a company in Sault Sainte Marie, which again suggests she has left the military (both she and her husband were serving at the time of the Korean War). Gene's schools are both listed as in Michigan, and he attended College at Sault Sainte Marie, so it seems likely that he never went to New Mexico.
All of this suggests one of two things. Either Mrs Akers stayed with or near her parents in Michigan while Cyrus carried on working whichever base he was assigned to, or Cyrus was nowhere near Cannon AFB and served at a base in Michigan, such as Kincheloe AFB. He could equally have been serving in Vietnam, as listed on his gravestone. If he was at Cannon, he joined his wife in Michigan in 1974 before they left for warmer climes.
The idea that Cannon AFB was chosen for filming as a quiet and sleepy out of the way place is also nonsense. In May 1968 it was chosen as a training ground for the 4429th Combat Crew Training Squadron, and it was also a training ground for the many pilots being readied for service in Vietnam. It was pretty busy, and as such would have been a monumentally stupid place to pick as a covert filming location.
The idea that Armstrong and Aldrn wre also popping buy to oversee the proceedings is also pretty dumb, given that their training schedule was pretty intense even a year before their mission.
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/A11CrewTrainingSummaries.pdf
in summary: a dead guy says a dead guy said. The original dead guy said it, only then it turns out the other dead guy said it. The notes were stolen, and nothing else, but then a computer was stolen as well. The dead guy still manages to read the notes. All the other evidence was destroyed in a fire that hadn't happened yet. LBJ was there, while simultaneously partying with Hollywood stars and Apollo 11 crew were also there while at the same time training at the Cape. The secret location for all this was a busy training ground for soldiers and air crew.
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All typical Sibrel. At least the English accountant gave us a more amusing ride along the way.
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Interesting twist here. One moon hoax loon on Facebook came up with this story bout an air police sergeant reporting a ufo at Cannon Air base
http://www.nicap.org/cannon68xxxxdir.htm
Again, what are the odds?
More digging reveals that one of the names on the list, Arthur Trudeau, has an alleged Roswell link.
So, my new theory is that our original alleged deathbed confessor is a deluded fantasist with a thing for alien stories. Whether his son is a party to that is a different thing.
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Well it seems one HB has put in an FOI about Akers' whereabouts in 1968 and would you believe it, turns out he wasn't at Clovis at all! Who would have thought it.
His records list Minot AFB (location of yet another UFO story in 1968), Grissom AFB and Nakhom Phanom RTAFB in Thailand. I dug out a local news report from 1969 showing him as being there, so that checks out just fine.
Naturally they are claiming his record has been scrubbed, and that it's deeply suspicious for one person to have 3 postings in such a short space of time. I can't comment on that, but I can summarise all the nonsense so far in a handy web page:
http://onebigmonkey.com/itburns/bartbs/bartsbull.html
My top take so far is that Akers would have been one of the people cheering Armstrong on as he appeared at the base with Bob Hope, not crying at his TV set at home.
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OBM which Facebook group is this on. I've been blocked from a few so i might not be able to see it :)
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It's the Moon-Landing Hoax one. Jarrah is a regular contributor:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1842692022608212
He, by the way, has raised a quizzical eyebrow at a paragraph in the FOI response, one which basically says "If you aren't Sgt Akers, you can't have the full details". He fails to notice the rest of the letter that says "If Sgt Akers is dead, his living relatives need to give permission". He's implying some sort of nefarious motive, when really it's just standard data protection. Akers' widow is still alive, ask her!
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Ah ok yeah i do chat on that one. I commented on Mike Chaplins post the other day
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Ah ok yeah i do chat on that one. I commented on Mike Chaplins post the other day
My mistake, my search history confused me - the one to which I was referring was the very similarly named one here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1090895674258943/?ref=share
The site admins are making a lot noise, and have opened a youtube channel to store their Facebook live streams. They're very intolerant of trolls (ie anyone who disagrees with them), and post the usual regurgitated easily debunked tripe.
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Ah ok yeah i do chat on that one. I commented on Mike Chaplins post the other day
My mistake, my search history confused me - the one to which I was referring was the very similarly named one here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1090895674258943/?ref=share
The site admins are making a lot noise, and have opened a youtube channel to store their Facebook live streams. They're very intolerant of trolls (ie anyone who disagrees with them), and post the usual regurgitated easily debunked tripe.
Ha i am actually blocked from that one. It's amazing that somebody like me who is very lacking in the technical aspects of Apollo and has only learned what i know mainly from this site and others would be blocked whilst lots of other who are much more educated are ok to view. In my opinion it's because hoax people don't like those who argue with them all the time and i go back to my comment on a thread before when i said the hoax issue is a mental one.
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Bart's doubling down on his story and adding juicy embellishments. In this youtube interview
He now claims that Cyrus Akers murdered a co-worker in order to maintain the cover up. Straight up, honest as the day is long Cyrus Akers killed someone to cover up a lie. He then confessed this on his deathbed to Gene, who (naturally, being a similarly honest and straight up guy) called the police and military police and then changed his name out of shame.
Earlier in the interview he boldy insists that he's the kind of guy who would 'turn over a million stones' to find answer, but after this big reveal says that he's "tired of it" and wants other people to go out and search archival sources to see if they can find a missing person that fits the bill. We all know what kind of conman trick that is. Not tired of it enough not to endlessly promote his book though.
He also claims that an FOI revealed no evidence of Akers' air force service (not true, the FOI shows where he served in 1968, just not where we he wanted him to have served), that Bill Clinton's autobiography confirms the hoax (not true, he just relates talking to someone who was scpetical of where the rockets were going as a metaphor for something else), amd that one of his named individuals claims in an autobiography that he was at Cannon AFB for 'undisclosed security reasons' (no such autobiography exists), and that Akers lived 'within walking distance across from the main entrance to the base' (no such housing existed at the time).
Grifters gonna grift.
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It's the Moon-Landing Hoax one. Jarrah is a regular contributor:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1842692022608212
He, by the way, has raised a quizzical eyebrow at a paragraph in the FOI response, one which basically says "If you aren't Sgt Akers, you can't have the full details". He fails to notice the rest of the letter that says "If Sgt Akers is dead, his living relatives need to give permission". He's implying some sort of nefarious motive, when really it's just standard data protection. Akers' widow is still alive, ask her!
Since I don't do FB/Meta, please give me a Cliff notes on what was said?
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That group's gone private now, so sadly not. Having googled what "cliff notes" are, I can only say that it's alreay in my post! The FOI response gives broad details of Akers' service but no specifics. Jarrah found this to be suspicious, when really it isn't.
This was the actual FOI return posted, which at the time the post was made was on a public forum:
(http://i.imgur.com/Sdr0UvS.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Sdr0UvS)
(http://i.imgur.com/0oTygLX.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0oTygLX)
(the blue highlight was by the original poster, the blocking of the sender is mine).
The long and short o fit is: at best, Sibrel is passing on unsupported hearsay evidence and presenting it as fact without doing any kind of background checking at all. At worst, he's knowingly putting out false information to sell copy.
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That group's gone private now, so sadly not. Having googled what "cliff notes" are, I can only say that it's alreay in my post! The FOI response gives broad details of Akers' service but no specifics. Jarrah found this to be suspicious, when really it isn't.
This was the actual FOI return posted, which at the time the post was made was on a public forum:
(http://i.imgur.com/Sdr0UvS.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Sdr0UvS)
(http://i.imgur.com/0oTygLX.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0oTygLX)
(the blue highlight was by the original poster, the blocking of the sender is mine).
The long and short o fit is: at best, Sibrel is passing on unsupported hearsay evidence and presenting it as fact without doing any kind of background checking at all. At worst, he's knowingly putting out false information to sell copy.
Being in England you may not use Cliff Notes but it was a short hand version of books, rather like Readers Digest.
Anyway, I listened to the droll for about 20 minutes before giving up and closing the vid. It is too bad Buzz wasn't around to punch him in the face, again.
You are correct grifters always grif, its in their genes.
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Hilariously, everyone's favourite fake free energy specialist, "Dr Rasaviharii", has found what he thinks are the hangars in which the landings are filmed on "old Cannon Air Force Base" documents. Here's his claim:
"so as we know... Apollo 11, and maybe Apollo 12 was filmed in the hanger at Cannon Air Force Base... so i was searching through some old Cannon Air Force Base documents, and i found this old document which shows that there used to be a hanger... down on the other side of the runway... the main base is over to the left... but the blue building on the other side of the runway was always off limits... even normal military personnel did not have the clearance to go visit that hanger over there"
He conveniently forgets to date and source his "document", but it's actually part of a 1985 USGS map:
https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=36079
Sadly, he never bothered to check any of the photos and documents that exist for the base, or he would have realised that the blue 'buidings' are sewage lagoons, and they were full of the same stuff as his facebook post.
I've updated my page on this story to include this.
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I saw Rashers posts, regarding the Lunokhod 'stars' and the 'mannequin' the other day (can't post in the page though, banned).
I don't have photoshop or anything that good, so couldn't overlay pictures, but I did go to the video record since a lot of the photos can be supported by the video at the time, and you can see Cernan at the back of the rover as the camera pans around. He's not moving a lot as he's talking with Capcom (I think he's sorting samples or choosing his next tool IIRC).
For the Lunokhod pictures, one of the first things I noticed was there were 'stars' in the black vertical distortions. Tried dropping into Stellarium to see if I could match stars to the photos. While it was my first time using the program, I think I got the right area and angles and couldn't match star patterns (one picture had a really clear L shaped pattern that I figured would stand out).
I'm waiting for 2026 to come and go, with no revelation from NASA that the landings were faked, like Rasher keeps claiming they will.
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Don't know if you've seen the section of my site where I take on the idiotic things these people say, but it's turning into pretty much just him - I've certainly done those two claims of his.
He presents himself as some kind of authority but time and again he says the most ridiculous nonsense that shows how little he knows, but the credulous goons on his page just lap it up.
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Don't know if you've seen the section of my site where I take on the idiotic things these people say, but it's turning into pretty much just him - I've certainly done those two claims of his.
He presents himself as some kind of authority but time and again he says the most ridiculous nonsense that shows how little he knows, but the credulous goons on his page just lap it up.
I've flicked through a few sections on your site, some nice details in there. But yes, Rasher could almost have an entire section to himself, he's had some fun ones in the past. One of my favourites is still his claim of a photo from a CNSA craft where they had adjusted the camera to get stars in the picture.....but it was a computer animation. And he did it twice! You'd think someone working with CNSA would be in the know.
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Conspiracy theorists are eating themselves.
Bart is the lead article in the next edition of Nexus, in which he regurgitates the usual tripe in the first half and copy/pastes the deathbed confession part of his 'book' into the second.
Hilariously, he says this in the first bit:
"In fact, I know someone who works in the command centre of the Chinese space agency and they admitted to me that everyone there knows that the Apollo missions were falsified by the CIA for propaganda purposes and that the Chinese government is blackmailing NASA to export valuable technology to their country in exchange for not blowing the whistle on the lunar fraud, which is in direct violation of the Espionage Act by our own government."
The someone he knows is "Dr" Rasaviharii, who claims to work there, but clearly doesn't. Dr Rasa has fabricated a history for himself so he can fabricate the Chinese position, which Sibrel then uses to support his own fabricated nonsense. It very much would be a violation of the act, if it was actually happening, but it isn't.
I'm not going to post the actual photo that has been taken of the page, but it's here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10163630573983636&set=pcb.7398706793477768
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Rasha works in the CNSA Command Centre now?! Must have got a promotion ;D
I love how Sibrel keeps using that picture for his parallel lines of the shadows going across the road, perfectly demonstrating that shadows change their direction with the surface they are cast on.