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Title: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on February 11, 2023, 04:16:09 AM


You can always tell by the eyes. 

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Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 11, 2023, 07:35:17 AM
I wonder if any other of the old timers from the Jarrah White days here saw him on FTFE and thought the same thing I did; "I wonder if ApolloHoax is still up and running?"

Good to be back.

And yea, Jarrah's still an idiot.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 11, 2023, 06:33:38 PM
And it looks like Jarrah is up to his old tricks in the comments.

Just like old times, eh JayUtah?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FouRLtFXsAEdKE7?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on February 11, 2023, 06:47:15 PM
Unfortunately (fortunately?) I can't see Blunder's comments.  He quickly bans anyone he suspects might be me.   ;)
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 11, 2023, 07:13:39 PM
You're not missing anything. He hasn't missed a beat in all these years.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 12, 2023, 02:26:21 AM
He signalled his intention to 'cut his opponent into tiny pieces' in the facebook group he uses, and hasn't been slow to crow over his 'victory'.

He hasn't changed his aggressive and antagonistic approach to people who disagree with him, and his new found status as an 'astrophysicist' is giving him more legitimacy in the hoax crowd echo chamber there. The only thing changing here is that his opponent was a flaf-earther, so there's some enjoyment in that.

His stance now as to try and dismiss all the more stupid arguments (lack of stars for one) as ones that destroy the hoax claim's credibility.

His academic training hasn't improved his ability to dissect data and consider alternative explanations for his findings.

He did an aulis article covering lunar orbiter imagery of the apollo sites that we claimed showed they had enough resolving power to allow accurate reproduction of them on Earth. He somehow skipped demonstrating which photos did that, choosing only the best of the best orbiter images and neglecting the fact that they did not match thr Apollo site details.

His response to weather satellites and Earth imagery matching is that they used the satellite to forecast Earth's appearance, and that there are macro-scale weather systems that repeat themselves. He neglects to look at the micro-scale accuracy of Apollo's exact match.

He cited examples from decades after the missions where models of weather system development were compared with satellites and found good correspondence, with caveats. He neglected the caveats and the advancements in both modelling and satellites.

So no, his aggressive, bullying style, utterly misplaced self-aggrandisement and cherry picking of data hasn't changed at all.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 12, 2023, 08:56:18 AM
Well, if he does agree to "debate" Craig at FTFE, it won't lack for entertainment. Craig has his temperament but isn't the best debater.

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: bknight on February 12, 2023, 12:42:15 PM
I watched about 3 minutes and as soon as the camera moving in to show FLAT EARTH DEBATE.  Switched off as IMO flat earth is dumber than the Apollo hoax.  Even if Jarrah opposes flat earthers, he is still as bright as mud.  I remember reading the IMDB, before the whole set of comments were deleted.  It may have been after his comments were deleted, but Jay destroyed him.  The very last action I did on his web site after viewing his series on Apollo 1 fire, charging NASA with murder was too much for me.  I posted a comment and haven't been back there ever and that was like 4-5 years ago.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 12, 2023, 01:42:22 PM
It's actually a smart move on Jarrah's part. He "debates" crazy flat earthers and ends up looking sane. He gets a lot of legitimacy that way. Which was why I was calling out Craig the moderator. Just a stupid, stupid move on his part.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on February 12, 2023, 08:55:39 PM
I was calling out Craig the moderator. Just a stupid, stupid move on his part.

He may be playing the long game.  I'm looking forward to seeing if Blunder's Facebook posts are as smug after Craig has had a proper crack at him.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: JayUtah on February 13, 2023, 12:42:33 AM
Just like old times, eh JayUtah?

He lives in an alternate universe.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 13, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
I was calling out Craig the moderator. Just a stupid, stupid move on his part.

I'm looking forward to seeing if Blunder's Facebook posts are as smug after Craig has had a proper crack at him.

I don't have a lot of hope about Craig. He isn't disciplined enough to get points across in a debate. It'll turn into a slapfest pretty quickly.

But if Craig wants to do some research, he can see exactly what Jar-Jar's points are going to be.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on February 15, 2023, 12:52:20 AM

He lives in an alternate universe.

Annnnd..... here we go (again).   ::)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1090895674258943/posts/6772699352745185 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1090895674258943/posts/6772699352745185)
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: JayUtah on February 15, 2023, 10:15:48 AM
Wow, obsessed much?
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 15, 2023, 02:02:45 PM
Wow, obsessed much?

He really is a uniquely stupid person.

Someone mentioned they may be doing a YT compilation of "Jarrah's greatest hits" but I really think he is incapable of being embarrassed. He would only be excited by the attention.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Ranb on February 15, 2023, 11:46:06 PM
What is at that link?  I'm blocked.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 16, 2023, 01:40:55 PM
What is at that link?  I'm blocked.

It's a flat earth debate channel. "Fight the Flat Earth".

You're blocked????
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Ranb on February 17, 2023, 08:04:24 AM
Yes, from that Facebook page. 

I get the message, "This content isn't available right now
When this happens, it's usually because the owner only shared it with a small group of people, changed who can see it or it's been deleted".
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Tomblvd on February 17, 2023, 05:09:54 PM
It's a Youtube channel, not facebook
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on February 17, 2023, 08:41:27 PM
It's a Youtube channel, not facebook

I think Ranb is referring to my response to Jay.  It includes a link to Blunder's latest manifesto in his little Facebook group.

Ran, you may be able to access it by logging out of Facebook first, or maybe by clearing all your cookies.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 18, 2023, 02:11:02 AM
In a nutshell he calls Jay a liar. He justifies this by comparing 3 versions of the same event (ie the justifiable punch in the mouth Sibrel got), namely;

- Buzz recounting how he was interviewed by a Japanese TV company in 'Magnificent Desolation'
- Sibrel claiming he was merely an invited guest of that company in his work of fiction passing as an autobiography
- Jay's assertion that Sibrel was the TV company, using subterfuge to gain access to Aldrin, just like he did other astronauts

Of course Sibrel would never fabricate things, cherry pick facts and twist the truth in order to publicise his grift and make his story sit better with his marks. Doesn't have a history of that at all. No sir.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on February 18, 2023, 02:30:16 AM
In a nutshell he calls Jay a liar. He justifies this by comparing 3 versions of the same event (ie the justifiable punch in the mouth Sibrel got), namely;

- Buzz recounting how he was interviewed by a Japanese TV company in 'Magnificent Desolation'
- Sibrel claiming he was merely an invited guest of that company in his work of fiction passing as an autobiography
- Jay's assertion that Sibrel was the TV company, using subterfuge to gain access to Aldrin, just like he did other astronauts


His shtick is and always has been character assassination. Dingbat seems to hyper-focus on irrelevant minutiae that has nothing whatsoever to do with the authenticity of the Apollo missions.

As for Brother Bart, he's become somewhat of a toothless, tragic figure.  I don't think he poses much of a threat to anyone unless he's behind the wheel of an automobile.

https://sci.ccc.nashville.gov/Search/CriminalHistory?P_CASE_IDENTIFIER=BART%5ESIBREL%5E12151964%5E180891

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Obviousman on February 19, 2023, 02:20:21 PM
Looks like he has a serious drinking problem.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Count Zero on February 19, 2023, 04:29:47 PM
As for Brother Bart, he's become somewhat of a toothless, tragic figure.  I don't think he poses much of a threat to anyone unless he's behind the wheel of an automobile.

https://sci.ccc.nashville.gov/Search/CriminalHistory?P_CASE_IDENTIFIER=BART%5ESIBREL%5E12151964%5E180891

The vandalism case was funny.  He became enraged with a woman in a parking lot and jumped up and down on her hood ("bonnet" to His Majesty's subjects).  The woman's name appears twice in the court filing:  As the victim, and as the County Prosecutor.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: bknight on February 19, 2023, 05:51:55 PM
11 months was too light, IMO.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: benparry on February 22, 2023, 10:54:49 AM
It's a Youtube channel, not facebook

I think Ranb is referring to my response to Jay.  It includes a link to Blunder's latest manifesto in his little Facebook group.

Ran, you may be able to access it by logging out of Facebook first, or maybe by clearing all your cookies.

Right click on the link and select open in a private window. But if you can't access it it means your blocked. I can't see it either
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Allan F on February 22, 2023, 01:34:00 PM
11 months was too light, IMO.

Suspended - and the first 3 entries are the same DUI.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: TippedIceberg on March 07, 2023, 01:08:13 PM
A bit off topic but still relevant - I just listened to today's NASA Artemis I Post-Flight Media Teleconference, surprise guest around timestamp 00:56:00:   :-\

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Mag40 on March 07, 2023, 05:30:51 PM
A bit off topic but still relevant - I just listened to today's NASA Artemis I Post-Flight Media Teleconference, surprise guest around timestamp 00:56:00:   :-\



Is there anything this incompetent berk can get right? He is citing "hindustantimes" as his source for the 3 CMEs in his question. He has his own video segment covering this. I won't post it.

https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/top-50-solar-flares/year/2022.html

None of his 3 events are in the top 50, let alone Earth bound.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: onebigmonkey on March 08, 2023, 02:03:48 PM
None of his 3 events are in the top 50, let alone Earth bound.

That was my first thought: were the CME he quotes actually heading anywhere near Artemis. The sun's a big ball, it can spit that stuff out in a large range of directions that don't come anywhere near us.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: TimberWolfAu on September 16, 2023, 03:15:29 AM
Apparently he's going to be 'debating'  astronaut Mike Mullane regarding Apollo;

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/lunar-landing-debate-astronaut-vs-apollo-hoax-theorist-live-stream-tickets-720002455727?fbclid=IwAR1N7zKoDkVb9OIFEfUQ5QAGh-R6O7qSevyuzq1RESr4CvexXeGNLKzlBo4
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: bknight on September 16, 2023, 11:07:09 AM
Keep a record of the conversation live, if possible, as Jarrah MAY erase some of his answers.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Mag40 on September 17, 2023, 02:41:05 PM
This is actually quite frightening in its concept. I believe Dara Ó Briain summed it up perfectly in this routine:


The blunder is the one with the string. I do hope Mullane is well prepared like the people who took that other moron Marcus Allen to the cleaners.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: smartcooky on September 17, 2023, 08:46:23 PM
Keep a record of the conversation live, if possible, as Jarrah WILL erase some of his answers.

FTFY
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: onebigmonkey on September 18, 2023, 03:55:52 PM
It's also worth noting who's hosting the show...
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on September 19, 2023, 12:10:20 AM
Apparently he's going to be 'debating'  astronaut Mike Mullane regarding Apollo;

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/lunar-landing-debate-astronaut-vs-apollo-hoax-theorist-live-stream-tickets-720002455727?fbclid=IwAR1N7zKoDkVb9OIFEfUQ5QAGh-R6O7qSevyuzq1RESr4CvexXeGNLKzlBo4

Parody and reality have officially merged.
(https://www.bitbotz.xyz/images/jarrahsresume.png)
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Ranb on September 19, 2023, 02:35:50 AM
From the link;
Quote
Jarrah White is an Australian filmmaker, astrophysicist and geologist. He has Certificate III & IV qualifications with distinctions in Screen and Media at the Sydney Institute of TAFE NSW, Australia; and a BSc with a Major in Geology and a Minor in Astrophysics completed in November 2017 and July 2019 respectively.
Is a person really an astrophysicist if they only have a minor in that field? 

Did he really learn much of anything about film making if he doesn't understand why 1960's tech was not up to the task of faking the moon landings?

He reminds me of Dr. Peter Venkman, who treats science as some kind of dodge or scam.  :)

EDT; The host (moderator?), Danielle Dallas Roosa is the granddaughter of Apollo 14's Stuart Roosa.  I suspect White might use this to accuse her of favoritism if he is made to behave himself and does poorly at the debate.

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: TimberWolfAu on September 19, 2023, 08:23:51 AM
I'm expecting questions from Jarrah that will be based around tiny details that people these days, even a qualified astronaut, just wouldn't know, and then for him to run with that as a win.

I've actually wondered where he got his BSc from, it wasn't from TAFE NSW, they don't provide a course for a BSc.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: onebigmonkey on September 19, 2023, 12:55:58 PM
I'm going with "well you would say that wouldn't you" along with a heavy dose of "compartmentalism" on the side.

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Obviousman on September 19, 2023, 05:16:03 PM
I've actually wondered where he got his BSc from, it wasn't from TAFE NSW, they don't provide a course for a BSc.

Yeah, I'd like to know that as well; how can we find out? Not saying he'd fake that but just asking questions, ya know....
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: sts60 on September 20, 2023, 01:52:53 PM
From the link;
Quote
Jarrah White is an Australian filmmaker, astrophysicist and geologist. He has Certificate III & IV qualifications with distinctions in Screen and Media at the Sydney Institute of TAFE NSW, Australia; and a BSc with a Major in Geology and a Minor in Astrophysics completed in November 2017 and July 2019 respectively.
Is a person really an astrophysicist if they only have a minor in that field? 
No.  He’s not an astrophysicist.

My undergraduate degree (not a minor) was in space physics.  That doesn’t make me an astrophysicist either.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Mag40 on September 20, 2023, 04:09:08 PM
From the link;
Quote
Jarrah White is an Australian filmmaker, astrophysicist and geologist. He has Certificate III & IV qualifications with distinctions in Screen and Media at the Sydney Institute of TAFE NSW, Australia; and a BSc with a Major in Geology and a Minor in Astrophysics completed in November 2017 and July 2019 respectively.
Is a person really an astrophysicist if they only have a minor in that field? 
No.  He’s not an astrophysicist.

My undergraduate degree (not a minor) was in space physics.  That doesn’t make me an astrophysicist either.
His minor degree actually allows him to proceed into the complex and long educational path to become one. Astrophysicists typically require postgrad qualifications and a good education in astronomy or computing. Reaching 23 credits on a minor degree is not majorly hard especially when the pass rate is 40% for at most 7 modules. It's an achievement, but only the first of many stepping stones.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Ranb on September 20, 2023, 07:45:44 PM
Thanks.  I suppose the following quote would apply then.  :)
Quote
Windu: "You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master."
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Obviousman on October 11, 2023, 08:01:38 PM
Very disappointing. Jarrah kept gish galloping, bringing up erroneous claims and there was no-one to refute those claims.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: TimberWolfAu on October 11, 2023, 08:04:38 PM
Just finished watching the debate with Mike Mullane.

Was a pretty non-event in the end, Mike's angle was more along the lines of how human behaviour wouldn't allow such a hoax to remain hidden for all this time, while Jarrah seemed to want to focus more on things he had 'discovered', mainly on radiation, which I wouldn't imagine Mike would be up to date on unless he had looked into both Jarrah's 'findings' and the radiation details from Apollo etc.

Ended up being more of a discussion than a debate and only went for an hour. Was an amusing point where Jarrah was just about to go into his qualifications (as a geologist and astrophysicist) but he got cut off. Would have been interesting to see if Mike considers a BSc sufficient to class someone as either a geologist or astrophysicist (especially when they don't do any work in either field).
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: onebigmonkey on October 12, 2023, 04:14:26 AM
Naturally it's being hailed a victory for the blunder.

I've seen a couple of his sycophants dismiss the "too many people would have had to be involved in the conspiracy" argument by citing other well known and allegedly 'proven' conspiracies (eg the Gulf of Tomkin, JFK's assassination, Iraqi WMDs etc etc), which is an ironic and hilarious combination of trying to use dubious claims based on inaccurate and false information to justify a dubious apollo hoax claim based on inaccurate and false information, or using things that people actually attempted to keep secret but which were uncovered pretty easily to try and prove that something could be hidden: "They can keep secrets, look how this secret thing stopped being secret!".

Jarrah knows which cherries to pick and which quotes to mine. He knows the Apollo topic and how to dance around it. Mullane knows his stuff, but not the Apollo topic.

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on October 12, 2023, 06:55:11 AM
Naturally it's being hailed a victory for the blunder.

I've seen a couple of his sycophants dismiss the "too many people would have had to be involved in the conspiracy" argument by citing other well known and allegedly 'proven' conspiracies (eg the Gulf of Tomkin, JFK's assassination, Iraqi WMDs etc etc), which is an ironic and hilarious combination of trying to use dubious claims based on inaccurate and false information to justify a dubious apollo hoax claim based on inaccurate and false information, or using things that people actually attempted to keep secret but which were uncovered pretty easily to try and prove that something could be hidden: "They can keep secrets, look how this secret thing stopped being secret!".

Jarrah knows which cherries to pick and which quotes to mine. He knows the Apollo topic and how to dance around it. Mullane knows his stuff, but not the Apollo topic.

I thought Mike was smart not to take Blunder's bait by tit-for-tatting with him on the minutiae of his claims.  Jarrah has weaponized his Asperger's to some degree by using it to recall obscure factoids from 15 years ago that he then uses as foundations for his ludicrous arguments.  Trying to counter each of them piecemeal would result in a 4-hour debate that'd be largely unwatchable. 

I especially liked Mike's point about Nixon taking advantage of the gift of democrat corruption had he discovered in '69 that he was inheriting a hoax from the previous admin.  It was a great point that I'd not heard before.

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: TimberWolfAu on October 12, 2023, 09:37:52 AM
I especially liked Mike's point about Nixon taking advantage of the gift of democrat corruption had he discovered in '69 that he was inheriting a hoax from the previous admin.  It was a great point that I'd not heard before.

It was one of those "huh" moments, where you hear something and it's just so obvious that you missed it because of how obvious it was. It's hard to imagine politicians not using everything they can to hold onto power, and the thought that even if Nixon held onto the 'hoax' because he could use it later, he just doesn't seem the sort of person to not 'burn it all down' and let it out when he got the boot. Always seemed like a M.A.D. sort of person to me.

There was one little point hat came up that I almost missed in Jarrah's gish galloping; he claimed the Apollo CSM as having enough shielding to stop up to 8 MeV, where previously I think he has claimed around 6.1. Turns out the Apollo shielding just keeps getting better and better. Unless, of course, I miss heard, it was in the middle of a runaway train.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: JayUtah on October 12, 2023, 01:54:46 PM
This is why I don't care for that style of debate. It takes far less time and effort to spread B.S. than it does to clean it up. A conspiracy theorist can Gish-gallop through a series of claims, all of which have reasonable answers. But the answers take too long and are too sciency, so the audience would get bored and the debate would turn into a college lecture: unwatchable. Yes, you can always respond by focusing on the forest instead of a few miscreant leaves, but the audience will more often than not still go away thinking, "One guy brought up a lot of stuff the other guy couldn't answer." That doesn't mean that guy is right. It just means the theatrics favor B.S.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on October 12, 2023, 05:57:59 PM
This is why I don't care for that style of debate. It takes far less time and effort to spread B.S. than it does to clean it up. A conspiracy theorist can Gish-gallop through a series of claims, all of which have reasonable answers. But the answers take too long and are too sciency, so the audience would get bored and the debate would turn into a college lecture: unwatchable. Yes, you can always respond by focusing on the forest instead of a few miscreant leaves, but the audience will more often than not still go away thinking, "One guy brought up a lot of stuff the other guy couldn't answer." That doesn't mean that guy is right. It just means the theatrics favor B.S.

That's exactly right.

Substance always takes a back seat to presentation when the core audience isn't well-read on the topic.  If their guy talks longer, louder or more confidently, that qualifies as a win to them.  Facts & established history are almost never part of the equation with landing deniers.  The Rogan v Phil Plaitt "debate" is a great example.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Obviousman on October 12, 2023, 06:14:04 PM
I laughed heartily when Blunder wanted to correct Ms Roosa, saying he was a 'doubter' not a denier. OK, he's 'reality challenged' not a $#@%ing idiot.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: TimberWolfAu on October 13, 2023, 03:30:35 AM
@JayUtah Yeah, I prefer the more structured debates, especially where it's say a few preprepared questions/items that will be discussed (preferably where both sides have shared the questions with each other ahead of time too)
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Mag40 on October 13, 2023, 03:25:52 PM
Jarrah White will never enter an arena like this forum. He knows his every step will be debunked and his education level trumped by people who have actual real world experience. He is not the least bit interested in a real discussion, he knows Apollo wasn't faked, he's just too emotionally invested and afraid of the humiliation of being openly wrong.

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: beedarko on October 13, 2023, 05:45:56 PM
I laughed heartily when Blunder wanted to correct Ms Roosa, saying he was a 'doubter' not a denier. OK, he's 'reality challenged' not a $#@%ing idiot.

I kept wondering when BFDU was going to address the turd in the punchbowl, i.e. that the moderator's granddad was a despicable liar according to him. 

I guess he wasn't brave enough.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Dalhousie on October 14, 2023, 12:38:37 AM
Ended up being more of a discussion than a debate and only went for an hour. Was an amusing point where Jarrah was just about to go into his qualifications (as a geologist and astrophysicist) but he got cut off. Would have been interesting to see if Mike considers a BSc sufficient to class someone as either a geologist or astrophysicist (especially when they don't do any work in either field).

It is possible to get a job as a geologist in Australia with just a BSc, although it is more usual to have a BSc(hons) degree (as I did initially). Certainly a BSc degree would get you a job as a geological assistant in industry which might lead with time to a promotion to mine or exploration geologist.
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Ranb on October 14, 2023, 11:59:25 PM
Is there link to the debate I can watch online?
Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: TimberWolfAu on October 15, 2023, 02:35:16 AM
Is there link to the debate I can watch online?

This should work;

Title: Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
Post by: Ranb on October 25, 2023, 03:13:54 PM
I have replied to several of the comments on the debate and they remain on the page.  But I made two of my own original posts about my feelings of the debate and they disappeared.  Are new comments disabled for this video?

I felt that Mullane could have done much better than merely sticking to the "it was too big of a lie to keep a secret".  White did a poor job of supporting his arguments.  His claim about radiation was poorly supported by his Aulis post which used outdated data from the 1950's.