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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Alan Bean and VAB
« Last post by grmcdorman on January 24, 2023, 01:58:51 PM »Or that he would need to know, as pointed out.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Alan Bean and VAB
« Last post by JayUtah on January 24, 2023, 10:19:50 AM »Bart Sibrel has a long established reputation of editing his source material to make it say what he thinks people will pay him money to hear.
The geometry of the Van Allen belts is dynamic and non-trivial. Their alignment with Earth is dynamic and non-trivial. Their alignment with an inclined orbit around Earth is dynamic and non-trivial. And none of the parameters that describe the radiation exposure is constant across the geometry. If the interview in question is about a Skylab mission, then no it wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that Al Bean didn't know whether any part of his mission would contact any biologically-significant part of the Van Allen belts. Someone knew, of course. But the alleged dilemma is based on the ridiculous notion that a member of the flight crew would know every detail that went into a mission planning exercise carried out by hundreds of specialists.
The geometry of the Van Allen belts is dynamic and non-trivial. Their alignment with Earth is dynamic and non-trivial. Their alignment with an inclined orbit around Earth is dynamic and non-trivial. And none of the parameters that describe the radiation exposure is constant across the geometry. If the interview in question is about a Skylab mission, then no it wouldn't surprise me in the least to learn that Al Bean didn't know whether any part of his mission would contact any biologically-significant part of the Van Allen belts. Someone knew, of course. But the alleged dilemma is based on the ridiculous notion that a member of the flight crew would know every detail that went into a mission planning exercise carried out by hundreds of specialists.
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The Hoax Theory / Re: They Kinda Want to Believe Apollo 11 Was Maybe a Hoax
« Last post by Zakalwe on January 23, 2023, 03:37:38 AM »
It's often linked to vaccine denial, flat Earth, etc.
A pseudo-sceptical mindset that doubts reality seems to be becoming mainstream. Plus of course trolling because it is fun.
Crank Magnetism is a thing.
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The Hoax Theory / Re: They Kinda Want to Believe Apollo 11 Was Maybe a Hoax
« Last post by beedarko on January 22, 2023, 11:13:38 PM »Too bad you have to have a subscription to read it. I haven't noticed what you speak of but I don't get out much.
Just FYI, if you're using Firefox, if you click on the link and immediately hit F9 (reader view) you might be able to get the entire article to load before it asks you for your subscription. I don't know if that works on other browsers or on a cell phone, but it usually works on my desktop.
That is a super useful tip... thanks for that! I do use Firefox as my primary browser and this worked!
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Alan Bean and VAB
« Last post by Peter B on January 22, 2023, 06:23:25 PM »You mean like him accidentially leaving evidence he's a fraud?
Let's just say it could reveal evidence of...um...creative editing.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Alan Bean and VAB
« Last post by Allan F on January 22, 2023, 08:24:54 AM »You mean like him accidentially leaving evidence he's a fraud?
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Alan Bean and VAB
« Last post by Peter B on January 22, 2023, 05:12:25 AM »And there was me wondering what Alan Bean had to do with the Vehicle Assembly Building...LOL.
My attitude whenever it's raised is to say that Bean didn't need to know about the van Allen Belts for Apollo 12. Its existence didn't affect what he needed to know and do as LMP during the mission, so it's likely he paid no attention to it.
Supporting that, I've read (I think in Chaikin's "Man on the Moon") that Bean specifically said he needed to remember so much for Apollo 12 that he deliberately made no attempt to remember the names of people he met, because he was worried that it would make him forget something he needed to know for the mission.
Having said that, do you think it likely that there'd be a raw video of Sibrel's interviews online? It seems unlikely to me that Sibrel would allow that.
My attitude whenever it's raised is to say that Bean didn't need to know about the van Allen Belts for Apollo 12. Its existence didn't affect what he needed to know and do as LMP during the mission, so it's likely he paid no attention to it.
Supporting that, I've read (I think in Chaikin's "Man on the Moon") that Bean specifically said he needed to remember so much for Apollo 12 that he deliberately made no attempt to remember the names of people he met, because he was worried that it would make him forget something he needed to know for the mission.
Having said that, do you think it likely that there'd be a raw video of Sibrel's interviews online? It seems unlikely to me that Sibrel would allow that.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Alan Bean and VAB
« Last post by Obviousman on January 21, 2023, 10:19:05 PM »If anyone would know, it would be Dwight. He knows heaps about Skylab and I am sure he'll be able to add context if it was from those days.
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General Discussion / Re: Kids say the darnedest things...
« Last post by gillianren on January 21, 2023, 01:42:31 PM »I was on a jury this week. The kids have been very interested in the process and what I told them about my fellow jurors. Sandy wanted to meet them and was disappointed that my service was ending. "When you die, can I take your place on the jury?"
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The Hoax Theory / Re: They Kinda Want to Believe Apollo 11 Was Maybe a Hoax
« Last post by Jeff Raven on January 21, 2023, 08:37:11 AM »Too bad you have to have a subscription to read it. I haven't noticed what you speak of but I don't get out much.
Just FYI, if you're using Firefox, if you click on the link and immediately hit F9 (reader view) you might be able to get the entire article to load before it asks you for your subscription. I don't know if that works on other browsers or on a cell phone, but it usually works on my desktop.