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Offline TimberWolfAu

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2023, 11:07:09 AM »
Keep a record of the conversation live, if possible, as Jarrah MAY erase some of his answers.
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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2023, 02:41:05 PM »
This is actually quite frightening in its concept. I believe Dara Ó Briain summed it up perfectly in this routine:


The blunder is the one with the string. I do hope Mullane is well prepared like the people who took that other moron Marcus Allen to the cleaners.

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2023, 08:46:23 PM »
Keep a record of the conversation live, if possible, as Jarrah WILL erase some of his answers.

FTFY
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If you're not a scientist but you think you've destroyed the foundation of a vast scientific edifice with 10 minutes of Googling, you might want to consider the possibility that you're wrong.

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2023, 03:55:52 PM »
It's also worth noting who's hosting the show...

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Offline Ranb

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2023, 02:35:50 AM »
From the link;
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Jarrah White is an Australian filmmaker, astrophysicist and geologist. He has Certificate III & IV qualifications with distinctions in Screen and Media at the Sydney Institute of TAFE NSW, Australia; and a BSc with a Major in Geology and a Minor in Astrophysics completed in November 2017 and July 2019 respectively.
Is a person really an astrophysicist if they only have a minor in that field? 

Did he really learn much of anything about film making if he doesn't understand why 1960's tech was not up to the task of faking the moon landings?

He reminds me of Dr. Peter Venkman, who treats science as some kind of dodge or scam.  :)

EDT; The host (moderator?), Danielle Dallas Roosa is the granddaughter of Apollo 14's Stuart Roosa.  I suspect White might use this to accuse her of favoritism if he is made to behave himself and does poorly at the debate.

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Offline TimberWolfAu

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2023, 08:23:51 AM »
I'm expecting questions from Jarrah that will be based around tiny details that people these days, even a qualified astronaut, just wouldn't know, and then for him to run with that as a win.

I've actually wondered where he got his BSc from, it wasn't from TAFE NSW, they don't provide a course for a BSc.

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2023, 12:55:58 PM »
I'm going with "well you would say that wouldn't you" along with a heavy dose of "compartmentalism" on the side.


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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2023, 05:16:03 PM »
I've actually wondered where he got his BSc from, it wasn't from TAFE NSW, they don't provide a course for a BSc.

Yeah, I'd like to know that as well; how can we find out? Not saying he'd fake that but just asking questions, ya know....

Offline sts60

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2023, 01:52:53 PM »
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Jarrah White is an Australian filmmaker, astrophysicist and geologist. He has Certificate III & IV qualifications with distinctions in Screen and Media at the Sydney Institute of TAFE NSW, Australia; and a BSc with a Major in Geology and a Minor in Astrophysics completed in November 2017 and July 2019 respectively.
Is a person really an astrophysicist if they only have a minor in that field? 
No.  He’s not an astrophysicist.

My undergraduate degree (not a minor) was in space physics.  That doesn’t make me an astrophysicist either.

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2023, 04:09:08 PM »
From the link;
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Jarrah White is an Australian filmmaker, astrophysicist and geologist. He has Certificate III & IV qualifications with distinctions in Screen and Media at the Sydney Institute of TAFE NSW, Australia; and a BSc with a Major in Geology and a Minor in Astrophysics completed in November 2017 and July 2019 respectively.
Is a person really an astrophysicist if they only have a minor in that field? 
No.  He’s not an astrophysicist.

My undergraduate degree (not a minor) was in space physics.  That doesn’t make me an astrophysicist either.
His minor degree actually allows him to proceed into the complex and long educational path to become one. Astrophysicists typically require postgrad qualifications and a good education in astronomy or computing. Reaching 23 credits on a minor degree is not majorly hard especially when the pass rate is 40% for at most 7 modules. It's an achievement, but only the first of many stepping stones.

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2023, 07:45:44 PM »
Thanks.  I suppose the following quote would apply then.  :)
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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2023, 08:01:38 PM »
Very disappointing. Jarrah kept gish galloping, bringing up erroneous claims and there was no-one to refute those claims.

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Re: Blunder® takes on a Flerf
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2023, 08:04:38 PM »
Just finished watching the debate with Mike Mullane.

Was a pretty non-event in the end, Mike's angle was more along the lines of how human behaviour wouldn't allow such a hoax to remain hidden for all this time, while Jarrah seemed to want to focus more on things he had 'discovered', mainly on radiation, which I wouldn't imagine Mike would be up to date on unless he had looked into both Jarrah's 'findings' and the radiation details from Apollo etc.

Ended up being more of a discussion than a debate and only went for an hour. Was an amusing point where Jarrah was just about to go into his qualifications (as a geologist and astrophysicist) but he got cut off. Would have been interesting to see if Mike considers a BSc sufficient to class someone as either a geologist or astrophysicist (especially when they don't do any work in either field).