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Brother Bart's at it again...
onebigmonkey:
Bart's doubling down on his story and adding juicy embellishments. In this youtube interview
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eeL9IoC6roc
He now claims that Cyrus Akers murdered a co-worker in order to maintain the cover up. Straight up, honest as the day is long Cyrus Akers killed someone to cover up a lie. He then confessed this on his deathbed to Gene, who (naturally, being a similarly honest and straight up guy) called the police and military police and then changed his name out of shame.
Earlier in the interview he boldy insists that he's the kind of guy who would 'turn over a million stones' to find answer, but after this big reveal says that he's "tired of it" and wants other people to go out and search archival sources to see if they can find a missing person that fits the bill. We all know what kind of conman trick that is. Not tired of it enough not to endlessly promote his book though.
He also claims that an FOI revealed no evidence of Akers' air force service (not true, the FOI shows where he served in 1968, just not where we he wanted him to have served), that Bill Clinton's autobiography confirms the hoax (not true, he just relates talking to someone who was scpetical of where the rockets were going as a metaphor for something else), amd that one of his named individuals claims in an autobiography that he was at Cannon AFB for 'undisclosed security reasons' (no such autobiography exists), and that Akers lived 'within walking distance across from the main entrance to the base' (no such housing existed at the time).
Grifters gonna grift.
bknight:
--- Quote from: onebigmonkey on November 09, 2022, 11:37:20 AM ---It's the Moon-Landing Hoax one. Jarrah is a regular contributor:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1842692022608212
He, by the way, has raised a quizzical eyebrow at a paragraph in the FOI response, one which basically says "If you aren't Sgt Akers, you can't have the full details". He fails to notice the rest of the letter that says "If Sgt Akers is dead, his living relatives need to give permission". He's implying some sort of nefarious motive, when really it's just standard data protection. Akers' widow is still alive, ask her!
--- End quote ---
Since I don't do FB/Meta, please give me a Cliff notes on what was said?
onebigmonkey:
That group's gone private now, so sadly not. Having googled what "cliff notes" are, I can only say that it's alreay in my post! The FOI response gives broad details of Akers' service but no specifics. Jarrah found this to be suspicious, when really it isn't.
This was the actual FOI return posted, which at the time the post was made was on a public forum:
(the blue highlight was by the original poster, the blocking of the sender is mine).
The long and short o fit is: at best, Sibrel is passing on unsupported hearsay evidence and presenting it as fact without doing any kind of background checking at all. At worst, he's knowingly putting out false information to sell copy.
bknight:
--- Quote from: onebigmonkey on April 30, 2023, 07:40:12 AM ---That group's gone private now, so sadly not. Having googled what "cliff notes" are, I can only say that it's alreay in my post! The FOI response gives broad details of Akers' service but no specifics. Jarrah found this to be suspicious, when really it isn't.
This was the actual FOI return posted, which at the time the post was made was on a public forum:
(the blue highlight was by the original poster, the blocking of the sender is mine).
The long and short o fit is: at best, Sibrel is passing on unsupported hearsay evidence and presenting it as fact without doing any kind of background checking at all. At worst, he's knowingly putting out false information to sell copy.
--- End quote ---
Being in England you may not use Cliff Notes but it was a short hand version of books, rather like Readers Digest.
Anyway, I listened to the droll for about 20 minutes before giving up and closing the vid. It is too bad Buzz wasn't around to punch him in the face, again.
You are correct grifters always grif, its in their genes.
onebigmonkey:
Hilariously, everyone's favourite fake free energy specialist, "Dr Rasaviharii", has found what he thinks are the hangars in which the landings are filmed on "old Cannon Air Force Base" documents. Here's his claim:
"so as we know... Apollo 11, and maybe Apollo 12 was filmed in the hanger at Cannon Air Force Base... so i was searching through some old Cannon Air Force Base documents, and i found this old document which shows that there used to be a hanger... down on the other side of the runway... the main base is over to the left... but the blue building on the other side of the runway was always off limits... even normal military personnel did not have the clearance to go visit that hanger over there"
He conveniently forgets to date and source his "document", but it's actually part of a 1985 USGS map:
https://www.topoquest.com/map-detail.php?usgs_cell_id=36079
Sadly, he never bothered to check any of the photos and documents that exist for the base, or he would have realised that the blue 'buidings' are sewage lagoons, and they were full of the same stuff as his facebook post.
I've updated my page on this story to include this.
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