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Flat Earth
bknight:
I would have to answer the ship issue, at what point in the ships travel do you see it first?
Is it traveling to or from your perspective?
Or is it traveling parallel toy your perspective?
If you can't tell then the video is suspect.
I have myself watched ships both incoming and outgoing and the top always appears before the bottom, if incoming. The bottom will disappear first if outgoing.
Another point tp ponder why did the Navy put very tall masts on the old battle ships for their fir direction control? Up there they could see further over the horizon.
Northern Lurker:
--- Quote from: bknight on August 01, 2018, 12:23:49 PM ---Another point tp ponder why did the Navy put very tall masts on the old battle ships for their fir direction control? Up there they could see further over
the horizon.
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And still radars are usually mounted on highest masts on ship. Also E-2 Hawkeye, E-3 Sentry and other AEW-planes fly high to have radar horizon farther away. If Earth was flat, why would USN store, maintain and fly Hawkeyes on cramped carriers if any radar above sea level would see as far?
Lurky
molesworth:
Honestly, the flat earth nonsense is so easily debunked with many, many simple examples and observations. Even basic experiments that anyone can do with simple equipment shows flaws in the ideas.
One thing that baffles me about it is that if the earth is indeed flat, then why, and by whom, was the "spherical earth conspiracy" started. The curved earth idea has been around for maybe as long as 4,000 years, so why would it have been created back then, for who's benefit, and to what end? And how has all the evidence of a round earth been "faked" so well as to stand up to careful scrutiny, and "the truth" so well hidden for all that time?
Basically, it has even less consistency than moon landing hoax ideas, and that's saying something... ;D
smartcooky:
--- Quote from: Peter B on August 01, 2018, 09:05:41 AM ---But for me, the main argument against a Flat Earth is the fact that I live in the southern hemisphere. Whatever arguments seem plausible to people living in the northern hemisphere completely fail when dealing with the reality of the southern hemisphere.
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There are two "most obvious" differences
1. In the NH, the sun rises in the east, passes through the southern sky and sets in the west, so that, if you are facing the path of the sun during the day, it travels from your left to your right across the sky. In the SH, the sun also rises in the east and sets in the west, but it passes through the northern sky, so that, if you are facing the path of the sun during the day, it travels from your right to your left across the sky. On a flat earth, this would be impossible.
Bonus: The same thing happens with the moon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6Omzvkg_kg
NH viewers will notice two things; the moon rises toward the left, and its upside down compared with how you see it - another thing that proves flat earth is impossible.
2. In the NH, the constellation "Scorpius" is the summer constellation; at midnight in midsummer, it is directly overhead. The constellation of Orion is the winter constellation, being directly overhead at midnight in midwinter. In the SH, its the other way around, "Scorpius" is the harbinger of winter, and Orion of summer. Again, this situation is impossible if the earth was flat.
Bonus tip: In the SH, Orion appears upside down, his sword is pointing up. Again, this only possible on a globe earth.
Glom:
--- Quote from: molesworth on August 01, 2018, 04:06:02 PM ---Honestly, the flat earth nonsense is so easily debunked with many, many simple examples and observations. Even basic experiments that anyone can do with simple equipment shows flaws in the ideas.
One thing that baffles me about it is that if the earth is indeed flat, then why, and by whom, was the "spherical earth conspiracy" started. The curved earth idea has been around for maybe as long as 4,000 years, so why would it have been created back then, for who's benefit, and to what end? And how has all the evidence of a round earth been "faked" so well as to stand up to careful scrutiny, and "the truth" so well hidden for all that time?
Basically, it has even less consistency than moon landing hoax ideas, and that's saying something... ;D
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The moonlanding was an isolated event in a far off place that didn't seem to affect life much.
By comparison, the flat earth conspiracy would affect everything. And to what purpose?
But then don't expect anything resembling rationality from Flat Earth proponents.
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