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Title: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: Bryanpoprobson on February 18, 2022, 03:31:58 PM
Bertieslack having fun with Jarah White on Twitter, feel free to join in.

https://twitter.com/jarrahwhite/status/1494630658463125507?s=12
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: Obviousman on February 18, 2022, 09:29:25 PM
I'll read the stuff but won't 'follow' him on Twitter; do NOT want to boost his "popularity" in any way.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: Bryanpoprobson on February 19, 2022, 12:30:19 AM
I wouldn’t follow him on there either, but if people jump on that thread he could be overwhelmed. 🤣😂
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: BertieSlack on February 19, 2022, 02:46:00 AM
I'll read the stuff but won't 'follow' him on Twitter; do NOT want to boost his "popularity" in any way.

Jarrah thinks he's found evidence of a major solar flare during Apollo 16, and he's directed his 'gotcha' at Jay. I don't know if Jay is on Twitter so this thread might be a suitable forum for Jay to have right-of-reply. I'll post a link to Jarrah's tweet here presently (in a rush right now) - it's currently the one at the top of his feed. It seems Jarrah doesn't know the difference between particulate radiation and EM such as gamma with respect to the health of astronauts inside a space capsule
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 19, 2022, 05:12:09 AM
His conspiracy theory is having to get ever more convoluted and complex to work.

Now he's claiming that the craft at the Apollo 11 landing site photographed by Chandrayaan is genuine, and used to transmit fake video and audio. Presumably it did a sample return as well, and included the 16mm footage. His main issue boils down to "gee it kinda looks funny", in that the lander doesn't look like he thinks it should when really it's all down to lighting.

He's claiming that the Apollo 11 mission report states specifically that Lunar Orbiter V photographed Apollo 11's landing site at 1m resolution, but I can't see that mentioned anywhere (happy to be corrected). He also doesn't recognise that a claimed possible resolution is not necessarily the actual resolution achieved, and it still doesn't explain the appearance of sub 1m objects and features accurately depicted in Hasselblad and 16mm images.

When India finally release the actual OHRC images (not the poor quality powerpoint slide versions we've had so far), the rush to claim photoshopping is inevitable - his claim that their images go via NASA is just laying the groundwork for that.

India's imagery from both Chandrayaan-1 and 2 confirm not just machinery but human activity at Apollo sites. Jarrah has no answer for that.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: BertieSlack on February 19, 2022, 06:18:23 AM
Now he's claiming that the craft at the Apollo 11 landing site photographed by Chandrayaan is genuine, and used to transmit fake video and audio.

It really is bare assertion assertion fallacy to hand-wave into existence an entirely new class of spacecraft that nobody has ever seen. And these things would be BIG: the size of an Apollo LM. So I wonder if Jarrah has a view as to how, when & where these things were launched. Surely the only US rocket we know of capable of sending that mass to the Moon with fuel for a soft landing would be a Saturn V? What would his fellow Aulis contributor Oleg Pokrovsky would have to say to that? After all, he 'proved' that the Saturn V wasn't powerful enough.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: BertieSlack on February 19, 2022, 07:17:08 AM
I'll post a link to Jarrah's tweet here presently......

Here it is: https://twitter.com/JarrahWhite/status/1494632563838980099

Didn't Apollo 16 carry a biostack experiment with radiation measurement capability? It would be interesting to see the results of that.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 19, 2022, 07:41:27 AM
Now he's claiming that the craft at the Apollo 11 landing site photographed by Chandrayaan is genuine, and used to transmit fake video and audio.

It really is bare assertion assertion fallacy to hand-wave into existence an entirely new class of spacecraft that nobody has ever seen. And these things would be BIG: the size of an Apollo LM. So I wonder if Jarrah has a view as to how, when & where these things were launched. Surely the only US rocket we know of capable of sending that mass to the Moon with fuel for a soft landing would be a Saturn V? What would his fellow Aulis contributor Oleg Pokrovsky would have to say to that? After all, he 'proved' that the Saturn V wasn't powerful enough.

He's also conveniently ignoring the LRRR and shadow from the PSEP - clearly visible in the Chandrayaan-2 image.

And just for fun, here's the LRO image taken under similar lighting showing the same apparent three legged lander - it's lighting Jarrah, nothing else.

(https://i.imgur.com/suXFoSt.jpg)
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: BertieSlack on February 19, 2022, 08:40:18 AM
It's lighting Jarrah, nothing else.

(https://i.imgur.com/suXFoSt.jpg)

Do you want to make the video, or shall I?
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 19, 2022, 08:42:17 AM
I kind of already did, but you are so much better at them (and it's also missing the PSEP and LRRR reference, and the LRO direct comparison):



Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: smartcooky on February 19, 2022, 09:03:59 PM
Now he's claiming that the craft at the Apollo 11 landing site photographed by Chandrayaan is genuine, and used to transmit fake video and audio.

It really is bare assertion assertion fallacy to hand-wave into existence an entirely new class of spacecraft that nobody has ever seen. And these things would be BIG: the size of an Apollo LM. So I wonder if Jarrah has a view as to how, when & where these things were launched. Surely the only US rocket we know of capable of sending that mass to the Moon with fuel for a soft landing would be a Saturn V? What would his fellow Aulis contributor Oleg Pokrovsky would have to say to that? After all, he 'proved' that the Saturn V wasn't powerful enough.

He's also conveniently ignoring the LRRR and shadow from the PSEP - clearly visible in the Chandrayaan-2 image.

And just for fun, here's the LRO image taken under similar lighting showing the same apparent three legged lander - it's lighting Jarrah, nothing else.

(https://i.imgur.com/suXFoSt.jpg)

After all these years of HB nonsense, the Blunder STILL doesn't understand anything about light and shadow.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: smartcooky on February 19, 2022, 09:07:18 PM
His conspiracy theory is having to get ever more convoluted and complex to work.

Now he's claiming that the craft at the Apollo 11 landing site photographed by Chandrayaan is genuine, and used to transmit fake video and audio.

Once you are forced to hypothesise whole new technologies to keep your conspiracy possible, you have stepped over into the realm of magic, requiring of you a deep and abiding faith in things you can never know.
- S. G. Collins
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: benparry on February 20, 2022, 01:20:39 PM
He's posted it on a Facebook Group called Moon Truth too. I follow this group although i'm not a member. I've sent a link to this thread to a guy i speak to who is on there
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 22, 2022, 03:26:25 AM
India's high resolution OHRC images are out - here's a quick screen grab of Apollo 11:

(https://i.imgur.com/mR4iI5S.jpg)
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 22, 2022, 03:38:07 AM
And 12...

(https://i.imgur.com/dNqmKg7.jpg)
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: BertieSlack on February 22, 2022, 03:53:21 AM
And 12...

(https://i.imgur.com/dNqmKg7.jpg)

Flag shadow, S-band erectable, foot-tracks, four legs (instead of Jarrah's three). Beautiful.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 22, 2022, 04:14:51 AM
Also pretty easy to see how the lighting produces that 'three legged' look - shiny shiny reflective surfaces in the sun, deep dark hole where the ascent engine sits, shadows cast by plume deflectors across a less well lit descent stage top.

"Added by NASA stooges" in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: BertieSlack on February 22, 2022, 06:27:06 AM
"Added by NASA stooges" in 3...2...1...

Actually it was 3...2...1......instant flounce

Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: Mag40 on February 22, 2022, 07:23:47 AM
Is this complete nobody still blundering on about a hoax after he supposedly gained entry level degrees in geology and astrophysics?
How can anyone with even rudimentary astrophysics not understand what peak flux is?
https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1990SoPh..127..297S/0000307.000.html

Month column 2, day column 3, peak flux column 8:

(https://i.ibb.co/3pMtpJ3/imbecile.jpg)

For those reading this who want to see in one simple table how Jarrah is a pigeon on the chess board - look at the peak flux for the August solar events, then compare that to the one this attention seeking fool is referring to.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 22, 2022, 08:41:49 AM
Some might question why the Apollo 11 and 12 images appear in isolation, when all the other OHRC observations are of the south pole region.

My theory is that the next data release for the TMC will show that it passed directly over them. The mission planners will have seen this coming and saw them as targets of opportunity. I don't think it's a coincidence that the two apollos are pretty much dead centre of the OHRC images. There are TMC views of Apollo 14, but only just, and they may not have been as confident of a hit.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 22, 2022, 12:14:49 PM
Love this bit of the one covering Apollo 12:

(https://i.imgur.com/YzRw2At.jpg)
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: BertieSlack on February 22, 2022, 02:02:00 PM
Love this bit of the one covering Apollo 12:

(https://i.imgur.com/YzRw2At.jpg)

Surveyor 3?
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 22, 2022, 02:17:27 PM
Love this bit of the one covering Apollo 12:

(https://i.imgur.com/YzRw2At.jpg)

Surveyor 3?

Yes - just look at that ahadow :)
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: JayUtah on February 22, 2022, 08:43:10 PM
Jarrah thinks he's found evidence of a major solar flare during Apollo 16, and he's directed his 'gotcha' at Jay.

That again?  He knows I already handed him ass on this point back when IMDB had message forums.  He deleted all his posts and ran away.

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It seems Jarrah doesn't know the difference between particulate radiation and EM such as gamma with respect to the health of astronauts inside a space capsule

As most laymen don't.  He was incompetent back then, and he's apparently still incompetent.
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: BertieSlack on February 23, 2022, 01:30:27 AM
He deleted all his posts and ran away.

He's not getting a lot of traction on Twitter either. Before he blocked me, I noticed his radiation post aimed at you had about 5 likes and 1 reply (mine).
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: bknight on February 27, 2022, 11:41:45 AM
And 12...

(https://i.imgur.com/dNqmKg7.jpg)

Isn't this A14 instead of A12?
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: onebigmonkey on February 27, 2022, 11:58:29 AM
And 12...

(https://i.imgur.com/dNqmKg7.jpg)

Isn't this A14 instead of A12?

Definitely 12

(https://i.imgur.com/hPbC1cr.jpg)

Chandrayaan-2 has covered Apollo 14, but only with the TMC:

(https://i.imgur.com/7i0lHAO.jpg)
Title: Re: Having fun on Twitter with Jarah.
Post by: bknight on February 27, 2022, 12:13:17 PM
And 12...

(https://i.imgur.com/dNqmKg7.jpg)

Isn't this A14 instead of A12?

Definitely 12

(https://i.imgur.com/hPbC1cr.jpg)

Chandrayaan-2 has covered Apollo 14, but only with the TMC:

(https://i.imgur.com/7i0lHAO.jpg)
With a wider zoom I totally agree it is A12..  I'm not sure of the scale, but IIRC A12 around ~200 feet from Surveyor Crater and without seeing a crater I said A14.  I guess there is a portion of the crater in the image.  8)