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Offline bknight

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #135 on: August 27, 2015, 12:38:36 PM »
Please list any your relevant qualifications.

Just in case you missed the question in all the posts.
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Offline Luke Pemberton

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #136 on: August 27, 2015, 12:39:21 PM »
Who cares when it was published?  You claimed no texts books mention it and that claim is false.

But, once Neil raised it, the whole scientific community had to rush out and make sure it was covered by filling in the gaps. I think that is what he is suggesting.  :o
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #137 on: August 27, 2015, 12:39:56 PM »
I admit it's pure speculation but that's the best I can do absent any responsible scientific accountability from NASA.
Does this level of duplicity seem plausible?

No.  It is not NASA's fault you are unwilling and unable to prove your accusations against them.  "Responsible scientific accountability" does not mean acquiescing to delusional demands made without evidence.

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For someone like me, no. But after confronting 9-11, I'm astounded at the evil of media-controlling Zionists.

This is telling.
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Offline Abaddon

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #138 on: August 27, 2015, 12:40:35 PM »

As for ISS spacewalks, they have been observed from earth using backyard telescopes by amateurs.


Oh bull!
Why? Is that yet another thing your bumbling efforts at research failed to find?

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Offline Neil Baker

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #140 on: August 27, 2015, 12:41:14 PM »

Who cares when it was published? 

Think hard. I'm sure you can figure this one out by yourself.

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #141 on: August 27, 2015, 12:41:26 PM »
Here's the US patent that discusses ice sublimation. Note the filing date Neil, well before you raised your concerns about their existence.

http://www.google.ca/patents/US3613775

Now, it you claim that this was filed during the Apollo missions so was too late for the Apollo missions, you clearly do not know a lot about patents OR have read through this patent which discusses previous sublimation systems. So, it would appear that a patent existed for ice sublimators well before your objections.

Your move.

Here is the patent on the sublimator (which I posted yesterday).  The filing date is 1963.

http://www.google.com/patents/US3170303

Offline JayUtah

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #142 on: August 27, 2015, 12:43:21 PM »
But, once Neil raised it, the whole scientific community had to rush out and make sure it was covered by filling in the gaps. I think that is what he is suggesting.  :o

Including, I suppose, time-traveling back to the 1980s and planting one in the Smithsonian, where and when I first saw a sublimator in person.  Or perhaps telepathically altering my memory.  Baker complains that NASA ignores him.  Perhaps he would be more successful if he were able to recruit some appropriately qualified allies?  But the record shows Baker is roundly regarded as a crackpot.  And for good reason, it appears.
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #143 on: August 27, 2015, 12:43:36 PM »
...no spacesuit ice sublimator is mentioned in any academic-level heat transfer or thermodynamics book.

Here a text book titled Advanced Heat and Mass Transfer that asks its students a question about porous plate sublimators (question #4.2.1).

https://books.google.com/books?id=yxMnotbAAz4C&pg=PA436#v=onepage&q&f=false

Yes, published in 2010 long after I began publicly disputing the ice sublimators in 2007
Heat and Mass Transfer - Anthony Mills - 1995 - ISBN 0256114439

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Offline Luke Pemberton

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #144 on: August 27, 2015, 12:44:29 PM »
http://www.google.com/patents/US3170303

Sorry Bob, I missed that. The evidence is clear though, patents exist for sublimation technology prior to Neil's concerns. The conclusion being that Neil is a poor researcher and is now trying to dig himself from a hole.
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Offline mako88sb

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #145 on: August 27, 2015, 12:45:31 PM »
Please list any your relevant qualifications.

Just in case you missed the question in all the posts.

Here's his resume from when he was running for governor back in 2002:

http://web.archive.org/web/20031224132630/www.oceanchinampa.com/BakerResume.pdf

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #146 on: August 27, 2015, 12:46:02 PM »
Think hard. I'm sure you can figure this one out by yourself.

It's already been figured out:  you're changing horses.  In your original post, you represented the "lack of information" regarding nickel porous plate sublimators as an ongoing concern.  It clearly is not, hence you have revised your argument to claim that you were responsible in 2007 for motivating the recent publication of suitable descriptions.
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #147 on: August 27, 2015, 12:46:17 PM »
Why? Is that yet another thing your bumbling efforts at research failed to find?

Hoaxers love blurry photos.
Okay, throw it in the pile with your other so-called evidence.
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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #148 on: August 27, 2015, 12:47:32 PM »
Think hard. I'm sure you can figure this one out by yourself.

Ok, I've thought about it.  You claim is false.

Offline Luke Pemberton

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Re: Why I suspect Apollo was a hoax.
« Reply #149 on: August 27, 2015, 12:48:00 PM »
Including, I suppose, time-traveling back to the 1980s and planting one in the Smithsonian, where and when I first saw a sublimator in person.

Time travel, that would mean a bit of Einstein's relativity I guess.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein.

I can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people – Sir Isaac Newton.

A polar orbit would also bypass the SAA - Tim Finch