Author Topic: Brother Bart's at it again...  (Read 804 times)

Offline BertieSlack

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2022, 07:49:42 AM »
Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel.

Some hoaxnuts on Twitter are whining that the video has "been taken down by Youtube". Dunno which channel they're referring to tho'.

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2022, 08:27:44 AM »
Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel.

Some hoaxnuts on Twitter are whining that the video has "been taken down by Youtube". Dunno which channel they're referring to tho'.

The one in the OP has been removed by the uploader. Should we start playing the ultra dramatic music?

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2022, 10:12:42 AM »
Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel.

Some hoaxnuts on Twitter are whining that the video has "been taken down by Youtube". Dunno which channel they're referring to tho'.

Might be worth grabbing an original before a modified version with fewer gaping holes appears.

Interesting browsing the names listed. Arthur Trudeau retired long before 1968. Robert Emmeneger worked in advertising at the time and is a UFO nut. Grant Noory doesn't seem to exist, but a too young George Noory does, also a UFO nut.

Gilmore insists he's telling the truth. Every liar ever said the same

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2022, 11:37:08 AM »
Rarely is a sporting term so disputed. Jarrah is now railing against propagandists saying the term slam dunk post-dates the apollo era, citing a Web article that says the move was banned before Apollo.

Sorry Jarrah. The move may have been banned before the missions, but the term describing the move didn't exist when it's claimed LBJ used it. LBJ also didn't use it because he was never involved in the farcical nonsense Sibrel has either concocted or fallen for here.

Seeing as I'm here, the other claim being made is that a record of LBJ's visit to Cannon AFB has somehow been expunged not just from their website, but every Wayback machine record, every Presidential diary entry, everywhere, solely as a result of Sibrel's 'investigation'. Or is it just that such a report never existed because it never happened, and Sibrel just needs some sense knocking into him again?
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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2022, 04:04:15 PM »
Sibrel's book 'Moon Man' has a fanciful section that recounts an alleged deathbed confession from an unnamed security chief at Cannon Air Force Base. The story is that LBJ himself turned up to supervise the construction and filming of Apollo 11 and all were sworn to secrecy:

https://youtu.be/xt4sIbAq7WQ

The person in the video is supposedly the son who received the confession, who himself has been threatened and is now making his own deathbed story.

His version is pretty much word for word what Sibrel has in his book, and he seems to have been the one to have contacted Bart. It would be wrong of me to suggest that the fee for this information went on meth.

Have fun with it.

Does he claim that Nixon showed up to record his message to them, as well?

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2022, 04:33:11 PM »
Nutters. I just no longer have time for them.

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2022, 02:52:56 AM »
Now the Blunder has mirrored this pile of stinking dung on his channel.

Some hoaxnuts on Twitter are whining that the video has "been taken down by Youtube". Dunno which channel they're referring to tho'.

The one in the OP has been removed by the uploader. Should we start playing the ultra dramatic music?

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2022, 03:17:10 AM »
Nutters. I just no longer have time for them.

It's getting like 'Cluedo' now. It used to be 'Kubrick in Nevada with the front projection' and now it's 'Johnson in New Mexico with the slamdunk'

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2022, 04:14:32 AM »
Nutters. I just no longer have time for them.

It's getting like 'Cluedo' now. It used to be 'Kubrick in Nevada with the front projection' and now it's 'Johnson in New Mexico with the slamdunk'

 ;D

Any military historians out there? Sibrel claims Cannon was chosen because it was the home of the 'Special Operations Command Center', something that didn't seem to exist until 1983, and which was preceded by Tactical Air Command in Langley.

I'm also puzzled by Joe Kerwen's inclusion in the list of approved personnel. He was already booked onto Skylab at this point (or the Apollo Applications Program as it was then).

So, the story so far: a dead guy says a dead guy told him stuff, but the dog ate his homework, spooky music etc etc. The dead guy's house burns down and their family have to beg for money to help out, even having to sell the family dogs when he passes on, but no money changed hands to help Bart sell his book. Uh-huh...

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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2022, 08:17:31 AM »
So, the story so far: a dead guy says a dead guy told him stuff, but the dog ate his homework, spooky music etc etc. The dead guy's house burns down and their family have to beg for money to help out, even having to sell the family dogs when he passes on, but no money changed hands to help Bart sell his book. Uh-huh...

It's dead guys all the way down...
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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2022, 03:15:47 AM »
Wow. Just wow. Not only did Mr Akers senior's obituary get mysteriously added to the 'find a grave' site not long after Sibrel's video, but now someone has added a screenshot of Sibrel's newly uploaded video, complete with link to Sibrel's site on it.

There's me trying to be respectful to the family by not revealing their details and someone does this!

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/48955542/cyrus-e-akers


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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2022, 11:32:54 AM »
Well, the key to all this seems to be Cyrus E Akers' story, and that is proving very difficult to pin down. A quick free trial at ancestry,com is helpful, to a point.

What it reveals is that Staff Sergeant Akers left the military in 1973. That's it!

What we can glean from his widow's records (she is still alive it would seem) is that she didn't seem to stray far from her home state of Michigan until moving to Florida with Cyrus in 1977. There's an interesting record of her returning to McGuire AFB from Germany with her son in 1959, but that's all we get - there's no record of Cyrus travelling with her. The passenger manifest lists the number of military personnel but they don't seem to need to complete entry cards. Her home address listed on the immigration card is a PO Box in Kinross township in Michigan. This township is not far from Rudyard, from whence the Akers' migrated to Florida in 1977. In 1960 she is listed as a book keeper for a company in Sault Sainte Marie, which again suggests she has left the military (both she and her husband were serving at the time of the Korean War). Gene's schools are both listed as in Michigan, and he attended College at Sault Sainte Marie, so it seems likely that he never went to New Mexico.

All of this suggests one of two things. Either Mrs Akers stayed with or near her parents in Michigan while Cyrus carried on working whichever base he was assigned to, or Cyrus was nowhere near Cannon AFB and served at a base in Michigan, such as Kincheloe AFB. He could equally have been serving in Vietnam, as listed on his gravestone. If he was at Cannon, he joined his wife in Michigan in 1974 before they left for warmer climes.

The idea that Cannon AFB was chosen for filming as a quiet and sleepy out of the way place is also nonsense. In May 1968 it was chosen as a training ground for the 4429th Combat Crew Training Squadron, and it was also a training ground for the many pilots being readied for service in Vietnam. It was pretty busy, and as such would have been a monumentally stupid place to pick as a covert filming location.

The idea that Armstrong and Aldrn wre also popping buy to oversee the proceedings is also pretty dumb, given that their training schedule was pretty intense even a year before their mission.

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/A11CrewTrainingSummaries.pdf

in summary: a dead guy says a dead guy said. The original dead guy said it, only then it turns out the other dead guy said it. The notes were stolen, and nothing else, but then a computer was stolen as well. The dead guy still manages to read the notes. All the other evidence was destroyed in a fire that hadn't happened yet. LBJ was there, while simultaneously partying with Hollywood stars and Apollo 11 crew were also there while at the same time training at the Cape. The secret location for all this was a busy training ground for soldiers and air crew.


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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2022, 10:24:30 AM »
All typical Sibrel. At least the English accountant gave us a more amusing ride along the way.
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Re: Brother Bart's at it again...
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2022, 03:27:58 AM »
Interesting twist here. One moon hoax loon on Facebook came up with this story bout an air police sergeant reporting a ufo at Cannon Air base

http://www.nicap.org/cannon68xxxxdir.htm

Again, what are the odds?

More digging reveals that one of the names on the list, Arthur Trudeau, has an alleged Roswell link.

So, my new theory is that our original alleged deathbed confessor is a deluded fantasist with a thing for alien stories. Whether his son is a party to that is a different thing.