Author Topic: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?  (Read 15409 times)

Offline Obviousman

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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2013, 01:02:37 AM »
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Of course it's faked. The US and Russia, however, won't blow the whistle because China didn't blow the whilstle they faked their missions; if they did point out it was faked, China would do the same to them. Since none of them want to lose face, they keep silent about each others fakery.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2013, 09:45:01 AM »
Did it land close enough to any of the Apollo sites that the rover could pay them a visit?
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2013, 10:26:38 AM »
Did it land close enough to any of the Apollo sites that the rover could pay them a visit?

Nowhere near. It landed in the Sinus Iridium. The nearest Apollo site would A15 at Hadley Rille, roughly 1000Km away.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2013, 10:35:25 AM »
Nowhere near. It landed in the Sinus Iridium. The nearest Apollo site would A15 at Hadley Rille, roughly 1000Km away.
It actually landed in the Mare Imbrium, but that doesn't alter the situation re other sites.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2013, 10:57:11 AM »
Nowhere near.

Well that's disappointing.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2013, 11:19:33 AM »
That's a 200 day drive, if it goes non-stop. Doubt it would last that long. What's the longest endurance of an off-world rover? Distance and time?
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2013, 11:38:10 AM »
The Opportunity rover has driven almost 40km since 2004. So I doubt 1000km is a realistic goal for the Chinese lunar rover.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2013, 01:18:51 PM »
Nowhere near. It landed in the Sinus Iridium. The nearest Apollo site would A15 at Hadley Rille, roughly 1000Km away.
It actually landed in the Mare Imbrium, but that doesn't alter the situation re other sites.

Yes, most websites are saying Sinus Iridium but the location of the landing site is  44.1260°N 19.5014°W. Thats the Mare Imbrium, and the nearest named crater is Laplace F.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2013, 01:30:45 PM »
The Opportunity rover has driven almost 40km since 2004. So I doubt 1000km is a realistic goal for the Chinese lunar rover.

Impressive.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2013, 03:57:28 PM »
That's a 200 day drive, if it goes non-stop. Doubt it would last that long. What's the longest endurance of an off-world rover? Distance and time?

According to Leonard David's article on space.com, Jade Rabbit is designed to function for 12 months. 
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2013, 05:41:15 PM »
I couldn't help but notice how today's photos show non-parallel shadows. That raises an intersting question to the HB crowd who want the Yutu to discredit Apollo. Also where the hell is the blast crater??
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2013, 09:12:01 AM »
The Opportunity rover has driven almost 40km since 2004. So I doubt 1000km is a realistic goal for the Chinese lunar rover.
Lunokhod 2 went slightly further, but in a much shorter time.  The lunar environment is probably a lot more hostile than Mars for a rover, due to the greater temperature range and the abrasive lunar dust.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2013, 04:15:19 PM »
Here's footage of the descent and touchdown



Ohh, there's no stars. And there's no blast crater.

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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2013, 06:10:29 PM »
Here's footage of the descent and touchdown


Nice video.  I really enjoyed the self similar look of the random pattern of craters on surface.  As small craters became big craters  during the descent the even smaller ones came into view to replace them.
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Re: When will the loons start to claim that Chang’e 3 is a hoax?
« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2013, 08:14:00 PM »
You beat me to it! I was also going to say that this was a beautiful illustration of the fractal nature of the surface. It does make it hard to know your altitude until the dust starts blowing around.

And there's no visible plume.

And no crater.

I can't wait to hear what Hunchbacked, Jarrah White and all their sycophants have to say about this...