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Offline Dalhousie

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COVID-19
« on: March 28, 2020, 12:31:48 AM »
A certain nameless family member seemed to successfully filled their bingo card.  To summarise:

"COVID 19 is a bioengineered virus spread by chemtrails after after mass immunisations weakened people's immune systems.  The virus was activated by microwave radiation from newly installed 5G networks"  I think that is what they said at any rate, the original was somewhat more incoherent.   ::)  ::)


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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2020, 03:06:09 AM »
Everyone knows it was a Chinese plot to destabilise the West’s economy. Or so I’ve been told on Facebook. 😂😂😂
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 03:27:51 AM »
Then there is the capitalist plot to get rid of old people.

Or the CIA attack on China

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2020, 04:35:34 AM »
Then there is the capitalist plot to get rid of old people.

Or the CIA attack on China

The latter one has backfired then.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2020, 05:08:00 AM »
Then there is the capitalist plot to get rid of old people.
Considering that older people make up a large part of the right wing voter base, this seems like a counter-productive idea.

There again, when did a conspiracy theory ever make sense?  ;D
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2020, 05:26:50 PM »
The 'boomer remover'.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2020, 06:09:01 PM »

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when did a conspiracy theory ever make sense?

OK, that’ll do, it’s time we all crawled back out from under our beds, stop watching the telly and reading the newspapers and do our own research, while staying well clear of Google.

Look for the real figures. Find the death toll figures for this time last year and compare them to what we have now and pay particular attention to flu and respiratory related deaths.

Educate yourselves on how the test works with its flaws and limitations. Find out how common these Corona viruses are and ask yourself why Germany have by far the lowest percentage of deaths in relation to the so-called confirmed cases.

Have you seen inside the wards teeming with virus sufferers? And before you start going on about how many people you know working for the health service, I myself know a fair few, including a couple of family members. Fair enough, the ones I spoke to say they are rushed off their feet, but isn’t that the norm in the winter months?

Here in the UK the NHS have been struggling to cope for years, so we are lead to believe, long before this new flu bug came along. Even if our hospitals really are chock-a-block with flu patients, there’s a perfectly simple explanation for that. Problem is, a bit of logic may be required during your research, so I don’t hold out much hope for most of the population.

When you have all the information in front of you, ask yourself if a seasonal flu bug is a valid excuse for placing us under house arrest and potentially putting millions of people out of work and bringing the economy to its knees. My private pension has took a massive nosedive, so the rest of my retirement may not be so rosy after all. It feels like we’re in some holocaust movie, only this is for real, apart from this so called deadly killer virus of course.

When this latest scare tactic blows over, we’ll all be thankful to our governments for potentially saving millions of lives. Lives that were never going to be lost in the first place.

I’m high risk because I have a chronic lung disease and asthma and it wasn’t all that long ago since I underwent major heart surgery. I’m locked up in my home until further notice, which makes it difficult to get the proper exercise I need. Am I worried? The only reason I’m not out roaming the streets, licking people’s faces is because it would upset my family. If it wasn’t for them, I’d be living in a forest, eating squirrels by now.

When an individual person in a hospital bed, looks out at you from your TV and says “look at me, this is what you get if you go out” it makes you sad and incredibly thankful that you are one of the lucky ones, does it not? Well stop it! You need to get things into perspective, as there are millions of people in hospital at any one time, hooked up to machines with tubes hanging from nearly every orifice. But one person on a news bulletin is enough to seal the deal.

This is how easy it is to fool people, because most of us will never be able to comprehend what our leaders are capable of. Plenty of people don’t trust their government, but to go this far would be completely absurd, wouldn’t it? We all had better get used to this way of life, because this is just the latest step towards their goal. Just imagine, no more protest marches, no more riots, no more terror attacks, as there would be no further need for them, and crime would be virtually non-existent. If I’m still here in five years’ time, let’s see how many people are telling me I was wrong.

I realise some people will be genuinely upset and even disgusted and appalled at my words, as there are lots of people who are experiencing what they think is a direct result of this fictitious pandemic. Flu kills people in poor health, the old and frail and even the odd seemingly healthy among us, so what we’re experiencing is normal, but it’s been cleverly spun by the elite few.

Even our leaders are probably oblivious to the scam, as they make decisions based on advice from their advisers who probably get their advice from someone higher in the chain. The alleged scientists giving advice are not scientists, you have to dig deep to find the real ones. These are the people that should open your eyes, and yes, this time they are real scientists.

It only took me a couple of days to source and process the information which exposes the scam, so if I can do it, so can you. You’re getting no help from me on this one. If you are too bone idle or dim witted to put the work in, then it’s no fault of mine. Maybe you think there is no need, as you have complete faith in the media, then more fool you.

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2020, 07:16:22 PM »
I will not tolerate any conspiracy theory that could endanger others.

Only time will tell just how deadly COVID-19 will end up being, but at this moment, when we could be seeing 200,000 deaths in the United States in the weeks or months ahead, it is not smart to assume that it is being over-hyped. Assume it is deadly, and be safe. Don't be stupid.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2020, 04:54:18 AM »
Cambo, you sir are a complete idiot. Statements like
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The only reason I’m not out roaming the streets, licking people’s faces is because it would upset my family.
are disgusting.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2020, 11:55:58 AM »
Also, such a classy Holocaust reference.

"It's just a seasonal flu" doesn't explain the exponential case growth.  It doesn't take much "independent research" to know that the fear is completely justified--the fact that a lot of these hospitals have already been overwhelmed is why the response needs to be as serious as it is.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2020, 07:49:42 AM »
Cambo, you sir are a complete idiot.
That pretty much sums up my response as well.

This is NOT a seasonal flu virus - it's not even in the same virus family.

Two key numbers explain why this is a disease which needs to be taken seriously, r0 - the rate of infection spread, and the Case Fatality Rate (CFR).  For influenza, r0 is around 1.3, while for Covid-19 it's somewhere between 2 and 3, so the latter is going to spread much more quickly and result in much higher infection rates in any given population.

Infected individuals can spread it even before symptoms appear, and because a lot of people are asymptomatic after infection, they aren't aware they might be spreading it.  (Some estimates say that 10% of most countries' populations are already affected, but likely asymptomatic.)  The longer average incubation time compared to flu increases the likelihood of spread as well.

The CFR is also much higher, being something like 0.1% for flu, and between 1% and 3% for Covid-19.  Taking these two figures together, and the lack of any effective vaccine or treatments, the worldwide impact of Covid-19 is going to be devastating.  Anybody downplaying it, or saying it's some sort of insane government conspiracy needs to take a long, hard look at where they're getting their information from, and maybe learn a little bit of real science.

Oh, and since this is the "Other Conspiracy Theories" sub-forum, I've just read a report that telephone engineers in the UK are being harassed and abused by people who think the roll-out of 5G is the cause of the disease, not a virus!  They're even setting fire to cell towers, just when people need connectivity more than ever.  (And of course there are the usual celebs backing and publicising these idiotic ideas.)  <shakes head despondently>
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2020, 09:27:25 AM »

when did a conspiracy theory ever make sense?

OK, that’ll do, it’s time we all crawled back out from under our beds, stop watching the telly and reading the newspapers and do our own research, while staying well clear of Google.

Look for the real figures. Find the death toll figures for this time last year and compare them to what we have now and pay particular attention to flu and respiratory related deaths.

Educate yourselves on how the test works with its flaws and limitations. Find out how common these Corona viruses are and ask yourself why Germany have by far the lowest percentage of deaths in relation to the so-called confirmed cases.

Have you seen inside the wards teeming with virus sufferers? And before you start going on about how many people you know working for the health service, I myself know a fair few, including a couple of family members. Fair enough, the ones I spoke to say they are rushed off their feet, but isn’t that the norm in the winter months?

Here in the UK the NHS have been struggling to cope for years, so we are lead to believe, long before this new flu bug came along. Even if our hospitals really are chock-a-block with flu patients, there’s a perfectly simple explanation for that. Problem is, a bit of logic may be required during your research, so I don’t hold out much hope for most of the population.

When you have all the information in front of you, ask yourself if a seasonal flu bug is a valid excuse for placing us under house arrest and potentially putting millions of people out of work and bringing the economy to its knees. My private pension has took a massive nosedive, so the rest of my retirement may not be so rosy after all. It feels like we’re in some holocaust movie, only this is for real, apart from this so called deadly killer virus of course.

When this latest scare tactic blows over, we’ll all be thankful to our governments for potentially saving millions of lives. Lives that were never going to be lost in the first place.

I’m high risk because I have a chronic lung disease and asthma and it wasn’t all that long ago since I underwent major heart surgery. I’m locked up in my home until further notice, which makes it difficult to get the proper exercise I need. Am I worried? The only reason I’m not out roaming the streets, licking people’s faces is because it would upset my family. If it wasn’t for them, I’d be living in a forest, eating squirrels by now.

When an individual person in a hospital bed, looks out at you from your TV and says “look at me, this is what you get if you go out” it makes you sad and incredibly thankful that you are one of the lucky ones, does it not? Well stop it! You need to get things into perspective, as there are millions of people in hospital at any one time, hooked up to machines with tubes hanging from nearly every orifice. But one person on a news bulletin is enough to seal the deal.

This is how easy it is to fool people, because most of us will never be able to comprehend what our leaders are capable of. Plenty of people don’t trust their government, but to go this far would be completely absurd, wouldn’t it? We all had better get used to this way of life, because this is just the latest step towards their goal. Just imagine, no more protest marches, no more riots, no more terror attacks, as there would be no further need for them, and crime would be virtually non-existent. If I’m still here in five years’ time, let’s see how many people are telling me I was wrong.

I realise some people will be genuinely upset and even disgusted and appalled at my words, as there are lots of people who are experiencing what they think is a direct result of this fictitious pandemic. Flu kills people in poor health, the old and frail and even the odd seemingly healthy among us, so what we’re experiencing is normal, but it’s been cleverly spun by the elite few.

Even our leaders are probably oblivious to the scam, as they make decisions based on advice from their advisers who probably get their advice from someone higher in the chain. The alleged scientists giving advice are not scientists, you have to dig deep to find the real ones. These are the people that should open your eyes, and yes, this time they are real scientists.

It only took me a couple of days to source and process the information which exposes the scam, so if I can do it, so can you. You’re getting no help from me on this one. If you are too bone idle or dim witted to put the work in, then it’s no fault of mine. Maybe you think there is no need, as you have complete faith in the media, then more fool you.

Right.

So the demographic stats for the UK suggest roughly 600,000 people die each year. That's about 1660 a day, though I bet that would vary to some extent month by month - my guess more in winter and fewer in summer. Now the reports are saying that 300+ people are dying each day from the coronavirus. That means that the daily number of deaths in the UK must be at least 20% higher than pre-virus. That sort of figure should be possible to check.

So Cambo, if you're still reading this, why not phone your local undertakers and ask them what business is like.

But never mind the UK. If you're still convinced everything is just tickety-boo in the UK, what about other countries?

You could check on Spain, with about 70% of the population of the UK, and as many as 800 people a day dying from the coronavirus. Are these numbers made up? Are all the people mourning dead family members just that old conspiritard stand-by of "crisis actors"? When a funeral provider says it's performing six times as many funerals as normal, is that fake statistics? (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/spains-coronavirus-reality-is-grim-how-did-it-start-there/12103590)

Or New York, where refrigerator trucks are parked outside hospitals to help with storing the extra corpses. Are the people seeing (and hearing) them telling fibs? Given what unemployment benefits are in the US, do you think the massive increase in people applying for them is due to a sudden surge of laziness? Or is it due to a massive economic downturn? (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-04/how-new-york-was-badly-hit-by-coronavirus-covid-19/12114976)

And here in Australia, do you seriously think a conservative government would introduce economic measures they themselves dismissed as socialist barely months ago (increasing unemployment benefits, providing wage subsidies to allow businesses to continue to employ people, providing free childcare for everyone, eviction moratoriums, and negotiating access to private hospital ICU beds to supplement the ICU beds available in the public health system) unless there was a hugely compelling reason? (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/coronavirus-scott-morrison-consensus-jobkeeper/12106334?section=analysis) [I particularly recommend reading this article - Annabel Crabb is a superb writer.]

I had to visit the doctor yesterday for an iron infusion (I have my own chronic health issues). Instead of the usual 50-odd chairs in the waiting room there were about eight. When I entered my temperature was taken and I had to answer questions about my health and use hospital-grade hand sanitiser. While I was waiting I saw one of the staff wipe down all the hard surfaces of the reception desk. And all the GPs in the clinic wore scrubs and face masks instead of ordinary clothes. Have the entire staff of the clinic been taken in by some massive conspiracy? Or are they all part of it?

Or, gee, do you think there may actually be a pandemic disease sweeping the world in a way nothing has done in the last century?

What is actually so hard to believe about this?

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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2020, 11:29:21 AM »
Oh, and since this is the "Other Conspiracy Theories" sub-forum, I've just read a report that telephone engineers in the UK are being harassed and abused by people who think the roll-out of 5G is the cause of the disease, not a virus!  They're even setting fire to cell towers, just when people need connectivity more than ever.  (And of course there are the usual celebs backing and publicising these idiotic ideas.)  <shakes head despondently>

I apparently have a friend who believes that 5G is dangerous and that people have been fooled to allow it because the law sneaked through during a time of tragedy.  She does believe in the virus, but she claims to be "sensitive" to the frequencies and says it's already making her sick.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2020, 12:35:37 PM »

I apparently have a friend who believes that 5G is dangerous and that people have been fooled to allow it because the law sneaked through during a time of tragedy.  She does believe in the virus, but she claims to be "sensitive" to the frequencies and says it's already making her sick.

Your friend is an idiot.
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Re: COVID-19
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2020, 07:38:24 AM »
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Right.

So the demographic stats for the UK suggest roughly 600,000 people die each year. That's about 1660 a day, though I bet that would vary to some extent month by month - my guess more in winter and fewer in summer. Now the reports are saying that 300+ people are dying each day from the coronavirus. That means that the daily number of deaths in the UK must be at least 20% higher than pre-virus. That sort of figure should be possible to check.

So Cambo, if you're still reading this, why not phone your local undertakers and ask them what business is like.

But never mind the UK. If you're still convinced everything is just tickety-boo in the UK, what about other countries?

You could check on Spain, with about 70% of the population of the UK, and as many as 800 people a day dying from the coronavirus. Are these numbers made up? Are all the people mourning dead family members just that old conspiritard stand-by of "crisis actors"? When a funeral provider says it's performing six times as many funerals as normal, is that fake statistics? (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/spains-coronavirus-reality-is-grim-how-did-it-start-there/12103590)

Or New York, where refrigerator trucks are parked outside hospitals to help with storing the extra corpses. Are the people seeing (and hearing) them telling fibs? Given what unemployment benefits are in the US, do you think the massive increase in people applying for them is due to a sudden surge of laziness? Or is it due to a massive economic downturn? (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-04/how-new-york-was-badly-hit-by-coronavirus-covid-19/12114976)

And here in Australia, do you seriously think a conservative government would introduce economic measures they themselves dismissed as socialist barely months ago (increasing unemployment benefits, providing wage subsidies to allow businesses to continue to employ people, providing free childcare for everyone, eviction moratoriums, and negotiating access to private hospital ICU beds to supplement the ICU beds available in the public health system) unless there was a hugely compelling reason? (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-31/coronavirus-scott-morrison-consensus-jobkeeper/12106334?section=analysis) [I particularly recommend reading this article - Annabel Crabb is a superb writer.]

I had to visit the doctor yesterday for an iron infusion (I have my own chronic health issues). Instead of the usual 50-odd chairs in the waiting room there were about eight. When I entered my temperature was taken and I had to answer questions about my health and use hospital-grade hand sanitiser. While I was waiting I saw one of the staff wipe down all the hard surfaces of the reception desk. And all the GPs in the clinic wore scrubs and face masks instead of ordinary clothes. Have the entire staff of the clinic been taken in by some massive conspiracy? Or are they all part of it?

Or, gee, do you think there may actually be a pandemic disease sweeping the world in a way nothing has done in the last century?

What is actually so hard to believe about this?

Peter, you won't get an answer, you're replying to a banned poster

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