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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2012, 12:01:48 PM »
Here are two photos I took the other day.  The first shows a shadow along the left of the photo.  The second one shows that the feet don't have to be below the center of the photo.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/judmccranie/7733597446/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/judmccranie/7733596444/

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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2012, 12:30:19 PM »
Okay, apparently I was misinformed.  I've just heard complaints before, and I must admit that I don't pay the strictest attention to Wikipedia citations.  If I'm going that in-depth, I usually do my own research.
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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2012, 12:53:18 PM »
Here are two photos I took the other day.  The first shows a shadow along the left of the photo.  The second one shows that the feet don't have to be below the center of the photo.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/judmccranie/7733597446/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/judmccranie/7733596444/

It's a little obscured by the uneven grass (it's been a rough summer on lawns...), but you also got a good example of the halo effect...the shadows of the grass in line with the camera and sun are mostly hidden behind the sunlit grass, while off to the side you see more of the shadows.

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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2012, 01:03:27 PM »
On the Moon they had a cloudless, unobstructed view of the horizon.  I had to wait until the Sun was above the trees, and wait for an opening in the clouds.  The Moon landings were done when the Sun was very low on the horizon, making the shadows long.

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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2012, 01:28:00 PM »
Here are two photos I took the other day.  The first shows a shadow along the left of the photo.  The second one shows that the feet don't have to be below the center of the photo.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/judmccranie/7733597446/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/judmccranie/7733596444/
Nice job. I especially like the second photograph because it shows not only your feet, but also your complete shadow.

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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2012, 01:40:14 PM »
Nice job. I especially like the second photograph because it shows not only your feet, but also your complete shadow.

My intention was to show the first one and for a person to tell me where he thinks my feet are (under the center).  Then show the second one.  They are taken with me standing in the same spot.

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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2012, 03:24:15 PM »
Here are two photos I took the other day.

Well done.  That's the sort of demonstration I intended by Figs. 2 and 4 on the cited page, even though I argue several points from them.  I specifically put the photographer's shadow along the left edge of the frame to show that Armstrong's shadow in the photo in question need not appear as Rourke insists.
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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2012, 03:39:43 PM »
Nice job. I especially like the second photograph because it shows not only your feet, but also your complete shadow.

My intention was to show the first one and for a person to tell me where he thinks my feet are (under the center).  Then show the second one.  They are taken with me standing in the same spot.
It is a good job.

I suspected the ubiquity of digital cameras would make this an easy HB claim to bury, but it lives on, even though the HB crew could easily disprove it themselves.

Permission to swipe your pics, sir? (Credited of course)

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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2012, 03:51:11 PM »

Permission to swipe your pics, sir? (Credited of course)

Sure.  My name is Jud McCranie (as you can see from y flicker page).

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Re: Shadow in photo taken by Armstrong
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2012, 11:00:51 PM »
I'm extremely tempted to email him to ask him if he still supports these claims, but perhaps that would be out of line..
Why would that be out of line? Any researcher who publishes his work implicitly invites comments and criticism. That just goes with the territory; scientific publishing is not one-way communication. He should also respond meaningfully and in good faith, though of course he's not obligated to agree, nor should he tolerate personal attacks or harassment. But when you put your name on something, you stand behind it.  Anything less would be unprofessional.