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The Hoax Theory / Re: jr Knowing's faked Apollo visuals
« Last post by BertieSlack on Today at 01:41:07 AM »
As I'm currently in Vietnam it's only natural that all I can hear in jr knowing's ramblings is Dennis Hopper's character in Apocalypse Now.

Hey, man, you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm... no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man! I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas....
......One through nine, no maybes, no supposes, no fractions. You can't travel in space, you can't go out into space, you know, without, like, you know, uh, with fractions - what are you going to land on - one-quarter, three-eighths? What are you going to do when you go from here to Venus or something? That's dialectic physics.
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The Hoax Theory / Re: jr Knowing's faked Apollo visuals
« Last post by onebigmonkey on Today at 12:05:02 AM »
As I'm currently in Vietnam it's only natural that all I can hear in jr knowing's ramblings is Dennis Hopper's character in Apocalypse Now.
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The Hoax Theory / Re: jr Knowing's faked Apollo visuals
« Last post by jfb on September 14, 2019, 11:46:19 PM »
Hi jfb,

Yes people often cite that photo as proof of hoax. I am not one of them. Yes he is lit up in the shadow and there is a glare of the back of his boot. But I think there are  (at least) plausible non hoax reasons for that.

Gillenren, with all due respect, Kubrick turned King’s book upside down. I don’t want to get deep into it because I will get “moderated”. But just check the first scene of Kubrick’s movie. It is not in the book. It is a 3 minute scene. Kubrick was in England (afraid of flying) but he had a crew fly over an island and mountain road in Montana. Name of the island?  Wild Goose. Name of the road? “Going to the sun” road. Apollo was the God of what? Sun. Wild goose chase means? “Hopeless pursuit of something unattainable “. What do you think he was trying to say?

Another island nearby is called Thunderbird - that's a Saturn V. Also visible is Red Eagle mountain - the Eagle has landed!

And don't forget that at one point in the film, Danny is watching the Road Runner Show, which originally aired on CBS.  Which has Columbia in the name.

Brilliant.

And this is what constitutes “proof” in the conspiracist’s mind - not facts, not physical or documentary evidence, but a narrative full of symbolism and metaphor.  You got rocks?  Pffft, I have a story that doesn’t care about your stupid boring rocks.  There’s no dots to connect with rocks.
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The Hoax Theory / Re: jr Knowing's faked Apollo visuals
« Last post by Von_Smith on September 14, 2019, 07:18:13 PM »
Hi jfb,

Yes people often cite that photo as proof of hoax. I am not one of them. Yes he is lit up in the shadow and there is a glare of the back of his boot. But I think there are  (at least) plausible non hoax reasons for that.

Gillenren, with all due respect, Kubrick turned King’s book upside down. I don’t want to get deep into it because I will get “moderated”. But just check the first scene of Kubrick’s movie. It is not in the book. It is a 3 minute scene. Kubrick was in England (afraid of flying) but he had a crew fly over an island and mountain road in Montana. Name of the island?  Wild Goose. Name of the road? “Going to the sun” road. Apollo was the God of what? Sun. Wild goose chase means? “Hopeless pursuit of something unattainable “. What do you think he was trying to say?

Another island nearby is called Thunderbird - that's a Saturn V. Also visible is Red Eagle mountain - the Eagle has landed!

And don't forget that at one point in the film, Danny is watching the Road Runner Show, which originally aired on CBS.  Which has Columbia in the name.
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General Discussion / Re: NACA
« Last post by raven on September 14, 2019, 05:26:18 PM »
That's Southern, not New England!
I was thinking the posh, drawn out, dropped R, New England accent. Anyway, according to the Cambridge dictionary website at least, it's pronounced as an initialism. My hunch is pronouncing it Nakka is a bit of a retcon to keep it inline with NASA.
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General Discussion / Re: NACA
« Last post by gillianren on September 14, 2019, 10:49:15 AM »
That's Southern, not New England!
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The Hoax Theory / Re: jr Knowing's faked Apollo visuals
« Last post by gillianren on September 14, 2019, 10:48:13 AM »
I mean, seriously, I could fill the time while we wait for JR Knowing to actually answer questions in a reasonable manner by explaining exactly what Kubrick did and didn't change in The Shining, as well as why it's hardly surprising that he should have chosen it as source material and was hardly "slumming" by doing so.  Also by speculating on why he chose the location in question--or if he even did, and hired a location scout, which is a real job for a reason.  But I made the point I did for a reason--speculation about people's credits, or lack thereof, proves absolutely nothing.  You won't always find the information you're looking for about people in the film industry with the information available online.
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General Discussion / Re: NACA
« Last post by raven on September 14, 2019, 01:10:00 AM »
I wasn't alive when it was an existing organization, but, unlike NASA, I always pronounced it as an initialism. Nakka sounds like some kind of fake 'exotic' chant, or some New England drawl. "Mah deah, Ah'm just so dreadfully nakkah."
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General Discussion / NACA
« Last post by Obviousman on September 13, 2019, 11:18:54 PM »
For about the third time this month I have heard people refer to the NACA as "nakka" (as in "I'm knackered!") rather than "en - ay - see - ay".

I had always believed the latter to be the correct; am I wrong? Is the NACA pronounced in the same way we'd refer to NASA?
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The Hoax Theory / Re: jr Knowing's faked Apollo visuals
« Last post by onebigmonkey on September 13, 2019, 10:39:09 PM »
Hi jfb,

Yes people often cite that photo as proof of hoax. I am not one of them. Yes he is lit up in the shadow and there is a glare of the back of his boot. But I think there are  (at least) plausible non hoax reasons for that.

Gillenren, with all due respect, Kubrick turned King’s book upside down. I don’t want to get deep into it because I will get “moderated”. But just check the first scene of Kubrick’s movie. It is not in the book. It is a 3 minute scene. Kubrick was in England (afraid of flying) but he had a crew fly over an island and mountain road in Montana. Name of the island?  Wild Goose. Name of the road? “Going to the sun” road. Apollo was the God of what? Sun. Wild goose chase means? “Hopeless pursuit of something unattainable “. What do you think he was trying to say?

Another island nearby is called Thunderbird - that's a Saturn V. Also visible is Red Eagle mountain - the Eagle has landed! What do you think Kubrick was saying there? Joining the dots only works if you end up with a recognisable picture.  If it's an incomprehensible jumbled scrawl it means nothing.  Kubrick's interpretation of King's novel is nothing like what was intended by the author, just as your version of history is nothing like what actually happened.

I look forward to LO approving the post with your hard evidence in it rather than the fabrications of an over-active imagination that will never see the light of day.
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