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Title: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Donnie B. on March 05, 2019, 07:15:57 PM
Hi again to you all!  It's been quite a while... and I'm both glad to see a lot of familiar nyms around here (Hi gillianren!), and deeply discouraged that there's still a need for you to be manning the barricades. 

I dropped in to see if anyone had yet mentioned this new documentary: https://www.imax.com/movies/apollo-11-2019 . I couldn't find an existing topic about it; hope I'm not duplicating one. 

Anyhow, I just got back from seeing it at an IMAX theater.  Had to drive an hour each way since the closest theaters decided not to carry it (boo!  hiss!) but let me tell you, it was worth the trip!  This thing is FREAKING AWESOME!

It was made from high resolution movie film shot at the time but never screened, along with the movie and TV footage from the mission itself.  It's a very straightforward doco, no narration or framing footage, and no jumping back and forth in time.  But man, is it ever impressive on the IMAX screen!  I've never felt the liftoff so viscerally, and never had a clearer feel for the landing drama.  You can really see the boulder field as Neil scoots over it.

Unfortunately it's only in IMAX theaters for the next couple days, so get your hustle on if you have the opportunity.  It should have a wider release starting this Friday in regular theaters.  Highly, highly recommended!

For a more thorough review, check out Scott Manley's on YouTube (no link here in case that triggers moderation, but it should pop up in a search).
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: LunarOrbit on March 05, 2019, 08:56:15 PM
I've heard nothing but good things about it.

I was going to see it last weekend but the weather didn't cooperate. I should be able to see it this weekend, but I'm disappointed it won't be shown in IMAX.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: LunarOrbit on March 05, 2019, 09:00:11 PM
For a more thorough review, check out Scott Manley's on YouTube (no link here in case that triggers moderation, but it should pop up in a search).

There's no problem with posting videos here, especially Scott Manley's.


Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on March 05, 2019, 09:52:06 PM
Anyhow, I just got back from seeing it at an IMAX theater.  Had to drive an hour each way since the closest theaters decided not to carry it (boo!  hiss!) but let me tell you, it was worth the trip!  This thing is FREAKING AWESOME!

I can't think of a better description.  The screening at Sundance was pretty dramatic, but the IMAX version is hell-and-gone better.  The Saturn V liftoff sequence was the closest I've ever experienced to an actual rocket launch without being at, you know, an actual rocket launch.  And at least 90 percent of the film was footage even I've never seen before.  Or if I have, certainly not that dramatically framed.

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For a more thorough review, check out Scott Manley's on YouTube...

At the office, we're fans.  I want to have him narrate all my presentations.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Donnie B. on March 05, 2019, 09:54:28 PM
For a more thorough review, check out Scott Manley's on YouTube (no link here in case that triggers moderation, but it should pop up in a search).

There's no problem with posting videos here, especially Scott Manley's.

Thanks, LO.  Some fora automatically send new posts to moderation if they contain more than one link.  I wasn't sure about that here so I limited myself to the one.

A couple other observations on the movie:

- It was good to hear Walter Kronkite's voice again.  So much more gravitas than what passes for news anchors these days.

- The lunar ascent was dizzying on the big screen.  You get a real feel for the way the guidance system controlled the RCS, seemingly oscillating around the desired track.  Then, as the LM approached the rendezvous with the CSM, I found myself thinking: "This is the very thing that was the big objection to the LOR mission mode".

- I noticed a handful of very minor errors in the simple animations used to illustrate the mission phases.  You'd have to be pretty fussy to complain about those, though.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Donnie B. on March 05, 2019, 10:02:01 PM

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For a more thorough review, check out Scott Manley's on YouTube...

At the office, we're fans.  I want to have him narrate all my presentations.

Fly safe!  8)
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: bknight on March 06, 2019, 11:09:03 AM
I eagerly await the showing in our nearby IMAX.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: raven on March 06, 2019, 01:50:29 PM
At the office, we're fans.  I want to have him narrate all my presentations.
Scott Manley the manly Scot. Hot damn does he have a sexy voice! :o
And, yes, very fascinating and informative to boot!
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Peter B on March 08, 2019, 08:17:02 AM
Anyhow, I just got back from seeing it at an IMAX theater.  Had to drive an hour each way since the closest theaters decided not to carry it (boo!  hiss!) but let me tell you, it was worth the trip!  This thing is FREAKING AWESOME!

I can't think of a better description.  The screening at Sundance was pretty dramatic, but the IMAX version is hell-and-gone better.  The Saturn V liftoff sequence was the closest I've ever experienced to an actual rocket launch without being at, you know, an actual rocket launch.  And at least 90 percent of the film was footage even I've never seen before.  Or if I have, certainly not that dramatically framed.

I think I know what you mean. About 15 years ago I saw a movie including a Shuttle launch at the IMAX cinema in Sydney. The camera seemed no more than about 50 metres from the base of the rocket...as well as hearing it with my ears I was feeling it with my stomach.

Sadly, the Sydney IMAX is closed for a year for renovations, and there's no sign the Melbourne IMAX is going to be screening it. Nor any indication that even the local art-house cinemas will be showing the ordinary version of the film.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Zakalwe on March 08, 2019, 10:35:05 AM
I can't see any release details for the UK yet either.  :'( >:(
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: bknight on March 08, 2019, 12:31:35 PM
From my search it is:
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October 23, 2018—MacGillivray Freeman Films is pleased to announce it has acquired the giant screen institutional distribution rights to Apollo 11: First Steps (working title), the all-archival, immersive documentary film from director Todd Douglas Miller and Statement Pictures. The approximately 40-minute film captures the experience of the first manned lunar mission, one of humanity’s greatest feats, featuring never before seen large format footage. The film is slated for release in May 2019 in time for the 50th anniversary of Neil Armstrong’s first steps on the moon on July 20, 1969. Watch a teaser trailer here.[/b]

It doesn't list any specific locations, so I might presume anywhere IMAX operates.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: LunarOrbit on March 08, 2019, 10:35:21 PM
I went to see the Apollo 11 documentary tonight, and I thought it was great. Definitely see it in a theater if you can.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Donnie B. on March 09, 2019, 09:11:09 AM
From my search it is:
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October 23, 2018—MacGillivray Freeman Films is pleased to announce it has acquired the giant screen institutional distribution rights to Apollo 11: First Steps (working title), the all-archival, immersive documentary film from director Todd Douglas Miller and Statement Pictures. The approximately 40-minute film captures the experience of the first manned lunar mission, one of humanity’s greatest feats, featuring never before seen large format footage. The film is slated for release in May 2019 in time for the 50th anniversary of Neil Armstrong’s first steps on the moon on July 20, 1969. Watch a teaser trailer here.[/b]

It doesn't list any specific locations, so I might presume anywhere IMAX operates.

The film we're discussing is over 90 minutes long.  This must be either a cut-down version, or a different film altogether.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Zakalwe on March 09, 2019, 10:35:07 AM
From my search it is:
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October 23, 2018—MacGillivray Freeman Films is pleased to announce it has acquired the giant screen institutional distribution rights to Apollo 11: First Steps (working title), the all-archival, immersive documentary film from director Todd Douglas Miller and Statement Pictures. The approximately 40-minute film captures the experience of the first manned lunar mission, one of humanity’s greatest feats, featuring never before seen large format footage. The film is slated for release in May 2019 in time for the 50th anniversary of Neil Armstrong’s first steps on the moon on July 20, 1969. Watch a teaser trailer here.[/b]

It doesn't list any specific locations, so I might presume anywhere IMAX operates.

The film we're discussing is over 90 minutes long.  This must be either a cut-down version, or a different film altogether.

IIRC there will be a cut down version for museums and school displays.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jfb on March 18, 2019, 11:36:34 AM
Saw it last night, enjoyed the hell out of it.

Some footage I had never seen before:


I think the re-entry view was an MTV bumper in the early '80s. 

And I still think the crawlers are more impressive pieces of engineering than the rockets they carry. 
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: bknight on March 18, 2019, 02:24:54 PM
The TLI burn from the ground would be great.  Does anyone know where a link to any of the TLI's might be?  The only one that I have seen is http://pages.astronomy.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html  and there are only a couple of the TLI itself.  I know they were over the Pacific normally and not too many people have telescopes on the water.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: ka9q on March 18, 2019, 06:00:19 PM
I didn't see any of the Apollo TLIs, but we did see the TMI (Trans Mars Injection?) burn of the Falcon 9 Heavy last year. That was fun. I'm sure the Saturn V TLIs were even more impressive.

Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jfb on March 19, 2019, 12:51:21 PM
I didn't see any of the Apollo TLIs, but we did see the TMI (Trans Mars Injection?) burn of the Falcon 9 Heavy last year. That was fun. I'm sure the Saturn V TLIs were even more impressive.

The footage in the A11 documentary is only a few seconds long, but it does show the SIVB light up.  Looked like they had trouble tracking right after that. 
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: bknight on March 19, 2019, 07:11:28 PM
I didn't see any of the Apollo TLIs, but we did see the TMI (Trans Mars Injection?) burn of the Falcon 9 Heavy last year. That was fun. I'm sure the Saturn V TLIs were even more impressive.

The footage in the A11 documentary is only a few seconds long, but it does show the SIVB light up.  Looked like they had trouble tracking right after that.

Well they had to get it somewhere.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jfb on March 20, 2019, 12:08:22 PM
I didn't see any of the Apollo TLIs, but we did see the TMI (Trans Mars Injection?) burn of the Falcon 9 Heavy last year. That was fun. I'm sure the Saturn V TLIs were even more impressive.

The footage in the A11 documentary is only a few seconds long, but it does show the SIVB light up.  Looked like they had trouble tracking right after that.

Well they had to get it somewhere.

Ah, now I understand what you're asking.  I'm guessing this is from the same source as the wide-angle launch view (the 69mm film that was never used until now). 
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Donnie B. on March 25, 2019, 01:10:38 PM
Scott Manley just posted a video that explains the footage of the S-IVB relight.  It may not be what you expect!

Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: bknight on March 25, 2019, 02:47:04 PM
Nothing new to me.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: smartcooky on March 26, 2019, 03:53:40 AM
At the office, we're fans.  I want to have him narrate all my presentations.
Scott Manley the manly Scot. Hot damn does he have a sexy voice! :o
And, yes, very fascinating and informative to boot!

OMG, I can't believe the number of otherwise perfectly sane women who go ga-ga over a male Scot's accent!!
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: molesworth on March 28, 2019, 03:04:24 AM
At the office, we're fans.  I want to have him narrate all my presentations.
Scott Manley the manly Scot. Hot damn does he have a sexy voice! :o
And, yes, very fascinating and informative to boot!

OMG, I can't believe the number of otherwise perfectly sane women who go ga-ga over a male Scot's accent!!
Maybe there's hope for me yet...  ;D
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: raven on March 29, 2019, 03:03:25 AM
At the office, we're fans.  I want to have him narrate all my presentations.
Scott Manley the manly Scot. Hot damn does he have a sexy voice! :o
And, yes, very fascinating and informative to boot!

OMG, I can't believe the number of otherwise perfectly sane women who go ga-ga over a male Scot's accent!!
And the not-so-sane ones! I blame Sean Connery.  ;D
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on March 31, 2019, 12:12:30 PM
I'm already a kilt-wearing Scot.  My mother's father is true-blue Clan Bell -- from the borderlands.  My mother's mother is McInnes, with influences from MacFarlane and MacLaren.  But I'll never be a Scott Manley manly Scot no matter how much Lagavulin I have in the cabinet.  Plus, if you've seen the Bell tartan...
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jr Knowing on April 01, 2019, 11:31:00 PM
The doc showed a clip of the CSM orbiting the moon in the movie right after they finished up on the moon's surface. I didn't catch if that was a simulation or real footage. And if it was real, was it DAC footage or TV footage? And does anyone have a link? Thanks.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 02, 2019, 12:42:38 AM
The doc showed a clip of the CSM orbiting the moon in the movie right after they finished up on the moon's surface. I didn't catch if that was a simulation or real footage. And if it was real, was it DAC footage or TV footage? And does anyone have a link? Thanks.

Real, not simulated.  16mm film.  Link to what?  The source footage?
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jr Knowing on April 02, 2019, 12:17:44 PM
Hi Jay,

Thanks, I thought it was DAC footage. Does anyone have a link to it? I can't seem to find it in any of the Journals. It is probably right in front of my eyes but I can't seem to locate it.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 02, 2019, 12:30:29 PM
There's no guarantee it will be available digitized for download.  The producers obtained the source footage as the original dupe masters -- i.e., film.  You may have to contact NASA's photo archive contractor to obtain similar footage.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: bknight on April 02, 2019, 12:31:16 PM
Hi Jay,

Thanks, I thought it was DAC footage. Does anyone have a link to it? I can't seem to find it in any of the Journals. It is probably right in front of my eyes but I can't seem to locate it.

An obvious suggestion, Apollo Flight Journal.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 02, 2019, 01:18:23 PM
Another issue to consider is that not all the flight footage used in the film was strictly from the Apollo 11 mission.  The specific scene in question might have come from a different mission.  That affects how easy it is to find online, if it has been digitized.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 03, 2019, 01:55:30 PM
Not having seen the documentary it's difficult to judge - can you describe the scene? Is it showing the CSM against a black sky? From directly above with the lunar surface in the background?

The AFJ has several youtube channels, one for each mission, and has good quality versions of the 16mm footage.

This is the Apollo 11 one

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnVYpEWcPdnotlCz7kriFxg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnVYpEWcPdnotlCz7kriFxg)
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 03, 2019, 03:46:44 PM
I'd have to see the film again to know which exact shot he's talking about.  I deduced it was DAC footage since the only moving pictures that could be taken of the CSM in lunar orbit would have to be from the LM's DAC.  The LM had no way to shoot and transmit television pictures except on the lunar surface.

There was no photorealistic simulation prepared for the film.  The only non-photographic elements were the simple line-drawing animations showing the activity of the spacecraft during each mission phase.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jr Knowing on April 03, 2019, 06:56:02 PM
Hi OneBM and Jay,

It is footage of the CSM.  And it appears the CSM is casting a shadow on the moon. (unless I misinterpreted the scene) Thanks
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 03, 2019, 10:04:10 PM
Hi OneBM and Jay,

It is footage of the CSM.  And it appears the CSM is casting a shadow on the moon. (unless I misinterpreted the scene) Thanks

Hoax claims are not permitted in this section.  Please state explicitly what point you're trying to make by referencing that scene.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jr Knowing on April 03, 2019, 11:14:31 PM
Hi Jay,

Its not a hoax claim. I am not even quite sure what I saw. It is possible it was of the LM and not the CM. In that case, it could even be TV footage instead of DAC footage. All I remember it was after they finished up activities on the surface and before the DAC rendezvous footage. 
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 03, 2019, 11:37:06 PM
Its not a hoax claim.

Fair enough.  You're obviously allowed to make hoax claims, just in the proper section.  Our moderator is quite strict about that.

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I am not even quite sure what I saw. It is possible it was of the LM and not the CM.

That's understandable in the sense that the film showed lots of clips of both spacecraft during orbit and ascent, after the surface activity.  Again, until someone can identify the clip in question there's not much point talking about it.

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In that case, it could even be TV footage instead of DAC footage.

Not likely, as the television connection required a lot of effort from the crew and even more effort from the MSFN operators.  Because the MSFN was not permanently configured for television -- they had to lease lines that were ordinarily given over to commercial use -- it was not common to have impromptu transmissions.  Further, the ascent and rendezvous was considered one of the most critical operations of the flight.  It's not a time when people would be mucking about with the television camera.  The Maurer cameras, however, could be mounted in windows and left alone.  For example, the terminal approach phase of the LM, which was depicted in the film, is actually at artificial speed because it was taken at 6 frames per second by the CM DAC mounted in a window.  The filmmakers seems to have converted it at the 24-30 fps rate.  Because if you play it back at natural speed, it's really boring.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 04, 2019, 08:50:27 AM
Hi Jay,

Its not a hoax claim. I am not even quite sure what I saw. It is possible it was of the LM and not the CM. In that case, it could even be TV footage instead of DAC footage. All I remember it was after they finished up activities on the surface and before the DAC rendezvous footage.

You really should be able to tell the difference between the two.

There were several TV broadcasts of the LM from the CSM during separation and rendez-vous.

We've had a discussion before on this site about the CSM casting shadows - iirc it related to the Apollo 17 DAC footage of the CSM speeding through Taurus-Littrow. I think the conclusion was that it was a smudge on the lens.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 04, 2019, 09:04:50 AM
...Apollo 17 DAC footage of the CSM speeding through Taurus-Littrow.

I think that segment appeared in the film.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jr Knowing on April 04, 2019, 12:02:14 PM
Hi Onebigmonkey,

Thanks, I know that A17 footage. It is a smudge. It is possible they used it in the Apollo 11 Doc. I was thinking about that but the doc footage I believe showed the shadow/smudge etc to the right of the craft. The A17 footage the smudge is to the left. Maybe they just reversed the film for the doc. (this DAC footage btw had not been shot into a mirror)
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 04, 2019, 12:18:13 PM
Thanks, I know that A17 footage. It is a smudge. It is possible they used it in the Apollo 11 Doc.

That's the footage I immediately thought of when you raised this question.  But naturally until we all are looking at specific footage and agreeing that it's what we recall, we can't be sure.  I think I remember seeing it in the film and wondering why they included the CSM overflight of Taurus Littrow in a film about Apollo 11.  But then it is common to interpolate footage from other missions.  The Saturn V staging sequences as seen from the various stages themselves are not from Apollo 11.  Not all the Saturn Vs were so instrumented.  It is important to regard tertiary sources like feature documentaries in the proper light, not as historical records.

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I was thinking about that but the doc footage I believe showed the shadow/smudge etc to the right of the craft. The A17 footage the smudge is to the left. Maybe they just reversed the film for the doc. (this DAC footage btw had not been shot into a mirror)

This is something I can follow up on later.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 04, 2019, 04:54:09 PM
  at 2:10.  Is this the clip you're thinking of, Jr Knowing?
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: jr Knowing on April 04, 2019, 04:59:48 PM
Hi Jay,

Yes, that is footage I have it in my library for A17. But if memory serves, the footage I saw in the Doc the "smudge" was on the right of the ship. Maybe they reversed the film.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: LunarOrbit on April 04, 2019, 05:02:31 PM
  at 2:10.  Is this the clip you're thinking of, Jr Knowing?
Yeah, I do remember seeing that in the documentary.

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Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 04, 2019, 06:15:31 PM
But if memory serves, the footage I saw in the Doc the "smudge" was on the right of the ship. Maybe they reversed the film.

They did not.  This clip appears in Apollo 11 exactly in the orientation seen in the YouTube link.  Perhaps your recollection is spotty.  No pun intended.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: onebigmonkey on April 05, 2019, 08:47:29 AM
And of course there were photographs as well:

(https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-147-22464HR.jpg)
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: apollo16uvc on April 05, 2019, 12:34:13 PM
There's no guarantee it will be available digitized for download.  The producers obtained the source footage as the original dupe masters -- i.e., film.  You may have to contact NASA's photo archive contractor to obtain similar footage.
I asked at which resolution the film was scanned, and if it will be avaible. Got the following reply:

"Yes, all of the 65mm Panavision film that was scanned at 8K will be turned back over to the National Archives, to allow other filmmakers the chance to use this material, too. And there may still be more to come from our team... stay tuned."

And 65mm Panavision does indeed have that much resolving power. Especially with cine-quality lenses.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on April 05, 2019, 04:04:08 PM
That's exciting.  I don't think Apollo photography has received this much love since Michael Light.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: LunarOrbit on May 14, 2019, 10:10:45 PM
I just discovered that the Apollo 11 documentary is now available on DVD/blu-ray and from streaming services like the Google Play store and iTunes.

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Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: ka9q on May 15, 2019, 03:44:19 AM
Not likely, as the television connection required a lot of effort from the crew and even more effort from the MSFN operators.  Because the MSFN was not permanently configured for television -- they had to lease lines that were ordinarily given over to commercial use -- it was not common to have impromptu transmissions.  Further, the ascent and rendezvous was considered one of the most critical operations of the flight.  It's not a time when people would be mucking about with the television camera.  The Maurer cameras, however, could be mounted in windows and left alone.  For example, the terminal approach phase of the LM, which was depicted in the film, is actually at artificial speed because it was taken at 6 frames per second by the CM DAC mounted in a window.  The filmmakers seems to have converted it at the 24-30 fps rate.  Because if you play it back at natural speed, it's really boring.
I'd love to go back to the moon just so we could all experience it properly, with modern digital cameras and communications. Except for the Hasselblads, none of the Apollo photography holds a candle to what can be easily done today with modern digital cameras, in real time.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: JayUtah on May 15, 2019, 10:02:36 AM
Stereo, high frame rate, high resolution.  Stereo is important; much of the contour of the lunar surface is lost in single-lens photography.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: ka9q on May 15, 2019, 03:29:38 PM
Stereo, high frame rate, high resolution.  Stereo is important; much of the contour of the lunar surface is lost in single-lens photography.
Yes. A few stereo photographs of the lunar surface go a long way toward explaining why shadows appear as they do.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: PDI-11 on June 19, 2019, 12:27:36 PM
In case someone has not seen this documentary yet, CNN will start airing it on June 23. https://www.cnncreativemarketing.com/project/apollo11/

Maybe if you sit close to the TV and turn the sound way up, it will be (almost) as good as in the theater.  ;)

I told my wife that I plan to record it and watch it every night before going to sleep.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Apollo 957 on June 30, 2019, 06:22:49 AM
Saw it at our local IMAX on Friday. Some wonderful stuff that I hadn't seen before, and a presentation that brought a whole new light to stuff that I had; for instance...

The monstrosity of a vehicle that rumbled and crawled the Saturn V from the VAB to launch pad. The feeling of endless climbing as the astronauts ascended the launch tower toward the CM. Seeing the Hassleblad stills from the EVAs at an incredible size, with an absolute bucketload of detail.... etc etc. 

Loved it.
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Zakalwe on June 30, 2019, 09:30:03 AM
I agree with all of the above. Opening with the crawler was a masterstroke.
Wonderful movie, great soundtrack...the 90 minutes fly-by.


Also, keep an eye out for this, releasing the week after next

Armstrong https://g.co/kgs/YxY5gz
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: Donnie B. on June 30, 2019, 01:58:09 PM
I noticed one thing that seemed odd to me (just was reminded of it when I saw it again on CNN).

During the burns (TLI, LOI, etc.) a display showed the spacecraft's speed, illustrating the change due to the burn.  But when the crew reported engine cutoff, the speed continued to change for several more seconds before leveling off.

Was that an error in the video production, or did the engines (S-IVB and/or SM) continue to provide some thrust for a short time after cutoff?
Title: Re: "Apollo 11" Documentary
Post by: ka9q on June 30, 2019, 07:05:39 PM
Large engines do take some time to shut down, but I don't know if the duration depicted is accurate or what triggered the callouts (e.g., the shutdown command to the engine, or the subsequent decay in chamber pressure.)