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Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« on: October 27, 2017, 04:07:53 PM »
The Dutch national broadcasting company was very keen on broadcasting the Apollo missions.

I have found the following broadcasts online:
This NOS broadcast with Apollo 11 was live recorded at someone's home with a video recorder. As NOS has reused their own tapes, this is the only reason the broadcast still exists today.

Apollo 11: https://www.npo3.nl/apollo-11-nos-16-t-m-21-juli-1969-1-uur-40-min/27-12-2010/WO_VPRO_041613


 
Apollo 17 Part 1: https://nos.nl/video/450281-nos-uitzending-apollo-17-deel-1.html
Apollo 17 Part 2: https://nos.nl/video/450663-nos-uitzending-apollo-17-deel-2.html
Apollo 17 Part 3: https://nos.nl/video/450665-nos-uitzending-apollo-17-deel-3.html
Apollo 17 Part 4: https://nos.nl/video/450283-nos-uitzending-apollo-17-deel-4.html
Apollo 17 Part 5: https://nos.nl/video/450284-nos-uitzending-apollo-17-deel-5.html
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Re: Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 12:06:09 PM »
What are these news organisations like? I have the Nos app on my phone to help with my Dutch learning. I have no idea whether I'm reading the Dutch Times or the Dutch Express though.

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Re: Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 07:34:42 PM »
This NOS broadcast with Apollo 11 was live recorded at someone's home with a video recorder. As NOS has reused their own tapes, this is the only reason the broadcast still exists today.

This was 1969. Betamax wasn't released until 1975, and VHS in 1976. Before that, there was the short-lived "Cartrivision", but even that didn't come out until 1972. What kind of system did someone have at home to record this on?

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Re: Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 05:22:36 AM »
What are these news organisations like? I have the Nos app on my phone to help with my Dutch learning. I have no idea whether I'm reading the Dutch Times or the Dutch Express though.
NOS is pretty much the Dutch BBC.
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Re: Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 11:44:18 AM »
What are these news organisations like? I have the Nos app on my phone to help with my Dutch learning. I have no idea whether I'm reading the Dutch Times or the Dutch Express though.
NOS is pretty much the Dutch BBC.
Yes.

This NOS broadcast with Apollo 11 was live recorded at someone's home with a video recorder. As NOS has reused their own tapes, this is the only reason the broadcast still exists today.

This was 1969. Betamax wasn't released until 1975, and VHS in 1976. Before that, there was the short-lived "Cartrivision", but even that didn't come out until 1972. What kind of system did someone have at home to record this on?
You are looking at devices like these: http://www.labguysworld.com/VTR-Museum_001.htm

Very expensive, but affordable for a well established amateur.
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Re: Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 12:08:42 PM »
This NOS broadcast with Apollo 11 was live recorded at someone's home with a video recorder. As NOS has reused their own tapes, this is the only reason the broadcast still exists today.

This was 1969. Betamax wasn't released until 1975, and VHS in 1976. Before that, there was the short-lived "Cartrivision", but even that didn't come out until 1972. What kind of system did someone have at home to record this on?
You are looking at devices like these: http://www.labguysworld.com/VTR-Museum_001.htm

Very expensive, but affordable for a well established amateur.

Indeed. Don't fall into the trap of assuming that VHS and Betamax, which were video tape cassette formats, represented the start of domestic video recording machines. Just as with audio tape, reel-to-reel recorders were available to the domestic market long before the tape cassette came into being.

In the UK there was some excitement in fan circles when the oldest known domestic video recording of a Doctor Who episode was discovered. It was made in 1969 too, on a reel-to-reel device, and contained an episode of the serial The Space Pirates. Unfortunately it was episode 2, which was the only episode of that serial already held in the BBC archive, having been returned on 16mm film some years previously. The other five episodes remain missing.
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Re: Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2017, 07:32:23 AM »
From a collectspace reply:

"    posted 11-13-2017 12:44 PM   by heng44   

The complete story...
Dutch television didn't send the AMPEX-tapes with the Apollo broadcasts to the archives, but used them again to save money. So the complete programs were lost.

Fortunately we were able to contact a private collector who owned a video tape machine in 1969, which wasn't exactly a household item in those days. He had hours of highlights of Apollo 11 through ASTP and agreed to have his tapes transferred to NOS archive tapes.

That was quite an operation because his tapes were beginning to fall apart, but we managed to transfer them successfully and the broadcasts were saved for future generations"
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Re: Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2017, 01:25:07 PM »
I have contacted a dutch observatory that received Apollo 10 and 11 audio, radar and telemetry with their equipment. They have got several 1/4 inch reel to reel tapes and have agreed to send them to me so I can digitize them. Like everything I will upload unedited lossless files to my archive.org account.

I have decided for flacs this time, as far as I know it is smaller than WAV and without any quality loss.
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Re: Apollo through the eyes of the Netherlands
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 04:08:55 PM »
I have digitized several 1/4 inch R2R reels that were used to record Dutch television and radio broadcasts about the Apollo missions.
They, later among other recordings, can be found here: https://archive.org/details/thirdpartyaudiotapes
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