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Offline AstroBrant

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How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« on: August 17, 2017, 02:33:14 PM »
Has anyone actually counted the number of still shots taken by Apollo astronauts on the moon's surface, (including the ones from inside the LMs)? I've always been uncertain about this and don't feel like counting them. If nobody knows, I will take on the unenviable task. Perhaps it won't be as bad as I think.

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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2017, 12:23:22 AM »
The Apollo Image Atlas summarises the location of each magazine's imagery, so you wouldn't necessarily have to count them all :)

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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2017, 12:49:15 AM »
Didn't Apollo 12 leave some film magazines on the surface also?

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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2017, 04:48:51 AM »
It's about 10,000 isn't it?

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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2017, 09:17:49 AM »
Images   Surface   Orbital   Other
18,667   6,506   9,135   2,988

I made up a spreadsheet of the figures for Hasselblad images from Apollos 7 to 17 at the Apollo Image Atlas:-
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/

It has totals for each mission and the figures above are the grand totals of those. It doesn't include figures for the mapping and panorama cameras, 35mm Nikon camera or the Apollo Lunar Surface Closeup Camera (ALSCC).

The figures at top don't add up, but the problem lies with the LPI figures. For instance, one magazine from Apollo 12:
Magazine Q   AS12-50-7325 to AS12-50-7459    [140 color images (0 surface; 58 orbital; 77 other)]

Sample (the formatting will be lousy here, but a close look will give you the idea):

No. * Mission * Magazine * From * To * Film * Location * Images * Surface * Orbital * Other
98 * Apollo 16 * UU * AS16-104-17001 * AS16-104-17052 * B & W *  * 52 * 0 * 0 * 52
107 * Apollo 16 * A * AS16-113-18279 * AS16-113-18382 * Colour * Lunar orbit & post-landing * 104 * 87 * 17 * 0
112 * Apollo 16 * NN * AS16-118-18857 * AS16-118-19022 * Colour *  * 166 * 0 * 125 * 41
* Apollo 16 *  *  *  *  *  * 2801 * 1782 * 814 * 205
 
If anyone would like a copy of the spreadsheet in Open Office format, send me a personal message with email address.

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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2017, 11:37:56 AM »
Thank you for the replies.
Kiwi, that covers my question and more. I should have specified Hasselblad images. The figure of 6506 will suit my purposes. For years I have been debunking Apollo hoax claims on YouTube and writing comments where I mentioned the number of Hasselblad images taken from the surface, but was never confident in it. The number I have seen used several times is "over 5700". I thought that might be a little high, so it was a surprise to find out that it was 6506.
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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2017, 11:45:21 AM »
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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2017, 02:27:33 PM »
Thank you for the replies.
Kiwi, that covers my question and more. I should have specified Hasselblad images. The figure of 6506 will suit my purposes. For years I have been debunking Apollo hoax claims on YouTube and writing comments where I mentioned the number of Hasselblad images taken from the surface, but was never confident in it. The number I have seen used several times is "over 5700". I thought that might be a little high, so it was a surprise to find out that it was 6506.


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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2017, 02:54:09 PM »
The most official way would be to read documents that cover photography of each mission.

Do you count panoramic camera and metric camera photos in your list? the combined from AS15, AS16 and AS17 are about 6000 photos for the panoramic camera alone.

Also some mags are missing from even official sites, or sites that have an archive of recently scanned film.

Mag 80 comes to mind, I have contacted someone that claims to have high resolution scans of it, but he doesn't want to put them online.

Quite recently I converted mag 123 to JPG and uploaded it to archive.org.
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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2017, 03:19:06 PM »
Onebigmonkey,
   Four more posts and you're a Saturn! I'll use this opportunity to rave about your web page again. Folks, if you haven't seen it, you really must.

Lol :D

By way of thanks for the fulsome praise I can reveal that I've spent the past few weeks scanning all the stamps, envelopes, postcards, newspaper articles and whatnot that ebay has provided for me and assembled them on this page:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/ephemera/ephemera.html

Wherein there is a tenuous link to this thread as I tend to collect this stuff because they are contemporaneous records of the images, not modern scans of them.

People might like the 'Special publications' one - in between the numerous newspaper special editions there are some more specialist things (the 'Bee-Hive' in house magazine for United Aircraft in particular).

One interesting thing I discovered is that the first recorded use I've found of Apollo 11's returned images is from a newspaper published in the UK on July 30th - a day before most other UK papers and meaning that they had access to them on July 29th.
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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2017, 03:59:46 PM »
Onebigmonkey,
   Four more posts and you're a Saturn! I'll use this opportunity to rave about your web page again. Folks, if you haven't seen it, you really must.

Lol :D

By way of thanks for the fulsome praise I can reveal that I've spent the past few weeks scanning all the stamps, envelopes, postcards, newspaper articles and whatnot that ebay has provided for me and assembled them on this page:

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/ephemera/ephemera.html

Wherein there is a tenuous link to this thread as I tend to collect this stuff because they are contemporaneous records of the images, not modern scans of them.

People might like the 'Special publications' one - in between the numerous newspaper special editions there are some more specialist things (the 'Bee-Hive' in house magazine for United Aircraft in particular).

One interesting thing I discovered is that the first recorded use I've found of Apollo 11's returned images is from a newspaper published in the UK on July 30th - a day before most other UK papers and meaning that they had access to them on July 29th.
You'll like the scans I have done:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BxS3Nsrmk63ec2dqZmdQd21GZ1k

And these photos of AS star photography from a book:
http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1349.0
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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2017, 01:12:21 AM »
Thank you for the replies.
Kiwi, that covers my question and more. I should have specified Hasselblad images. The figure of 6506 will suit my purposes. For years I have been debunking Apollo hoax claims on YouTube and writing comments where I mentioned the number of Hasselblad images taken from the surface, but was never confident in it. The number I have seen used several times is "over 5700". I thought that might be a little high, so it was a surprise to find out that it was 6506.


That is a hellovalot of photos for the fakers to photoshop without Photoshop!

It sounds like a lot, but all you need is a slide-rule sweatshop. It's probably deep below Area 51. Parallel slide rules rule!
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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2017, 09:20:30 AM »
Thank you for the replies.
Kiwi, that covers my question and more. I should have specified Hasselblad images. The figure of 6506 will suit my purposes. For years I have been debunking Apollo hoax claims on YouTube and writing comments where I mentioned the number of Hasselblad images taken from the surface, but was never confident in it. The number I have seen used several times is "over 5700". I thought that might be a little high, so it was a surprise to find out that it was 6506.


That is a hellovalot of photos for the fakers to photoshop without Photoshop!

It sounds like a lot, but all you need is a slide-rule sweatshop. It's probably deep below Area 51. Parallel slide rules rule!

Oh, Photoshop "slide Rule" Edition... hadn't heard of that one!
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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2017, 10:28:36 AM »
Thank you for the replies.
Kiwi, that covers my question and more. I should have specified Hasselblad images. The figure of 6506 will suit my purposes. For years I have been debunking Apollo hoax claims on YouTube and writing comments where I mentioned the number of Hasselblad images taken from the surface, but was never confident in it. The number I have seen used several times is "over 5700". I thought that might be a little high, so it was a surprise to find out that it was 6506.


That is a hellovalot of photos for the fakers to photoshop without Photoshop!

It sounds like a lot, but all you need is a slide-rule sweatshop. It's probably deep below Area 51. Parallel slide rules rule!

Oh, Photoshop "slide Rule" Edition... hadn't heard of that one!

You see, the HB's are correct only the top Escalon of the Apollo program know ALL.  "They" were even clairvoyant to envision Photoshop before it was programmed.   ::)
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Re: How many pictures were taken on the lunar surface?
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2017, 12:21:02 AM »
That is a hellovalot of photos for the fakers to photoshop without Photoshop!
That's a hell of a lot of photos for the fakers to fake WITH Photoshop! But seriously, I've seen it claimed the Apollo visuals were faked with  3D CGI.  Yeaaah. ::)
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