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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by apollo16uvc on October 16, 2018, 04:02:31 PM »
Thanks for your amazing research so far.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by onebigmonkey on October 16, 2018, 03:37:24 PM »
Very good, I bet if the sun angle was the same in the Hycon photo it would have almost the same resolution. the LRO photo appears higher resolution than it actually is due to the greater shadows.

Is that the LRO at maximum magnification?

To be fair it is just a screenshot of the LRO quickmap at maximum zoom, rather than the image itself.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by apollo16uvc on October 16, 2018, 03:24:34 PM »
Very good, I bet if the sun angle was the same in the Hycon photo it would have almost the same resolution. the LRO photo appears higher resolution than it actually is due to the greater shadows.

Is that the LRO at maximum magnification?
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by onebigmonkey on October 16, 2018, 03:06:03 PM »
An LRO Hycon comparison

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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by onebigmonkey on October 16, 2018, 02:52:43 PM »
That is sick! Is the hycon photo the THEOPHILUS crater?

I would be interested in a comparison between the panoramic mapping camera, the LRO and the Hycon. Given how far you can zoom in into my Hycon scans, I say it is more than double the pancam!

I hope we can make comparisons with more equal lighting and viewing angle, but I guess we do not have that luxury.

Yes, it's the Eastern edge of Theophilus, roughly -11.19079, 27.75183.

There will be some segments of Theophilus that have comparable lighting from the LRO but not the specific bit that I picked there (just to the left there would have been! Obviously LRO is much better but considering the age of both the Hycon and Panoramic cameras the resolution is remarkable. You can see why they weren't keen on the Soviets knowing just how good they were!
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by apollo16uvc on October 16, 2018, 02:31:03 PM »
That is sick! Is the hycon photo a tiny crater inside the THEOPHILUS crater?

Unfortunately I don't have nearly enough experience to find such a small detail, is it possible you can screenshot the AS16-P-4522 preview on the NASA website and circle the area where the crater is?

I would be interested in a comparison between the panoramic mapping camera, the LRO and the Hycon. Given how far you can zoom in into my Hycon scans, I say it is more than double the pancam!

I hope we can make comparisons with more equal lighting and viewing angle, but I guess we do not have that luxury.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: LLRV and LLTV
« Last post by benparry on October 16, 2018, 02:21:18 PM »
Morning All

a chat with an old friend re the landings and the viewing of first man has posed a question which I am not sure of.

it regards the LLRV and LLTV. He acserts that not enough time was spent training in them especially the Apollo 11 backup commander who had no LLRV training.

firstly is this true and was it an issue and secondly is there a resource anywhere showing all test flights of the LLRV and LLTV with name of pilot , date etc

does this also exist for the testing of the LM components. I understand the actual LM couldn't be tested in full until the actual landings

cheers

Ben

Zakalwe has posted most of the questions/explanations as usual.

As usual find out his knowledge, not just his beliefs.  Pin him down to what training experience were the astronauts required.  I don't have a training record fo eash, but Bill Anders flew the LLTV immediatly prior to the one that crashed with Neil.  Bill didn't fly with a LM and he was CM pilot, but trained.  o his thoughts that they didn't train "enough" go out the window.

Zakalwe posted another good question, has he had any experience in setting up or managing training in a like program.

what do you think bknight lol I doubt it just has his opinions
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by onebigmonkey on October 16, 2018, 02:17:47 PM »
Would you say the Hycon photos have a higher resolving power than the mapping camera and pancam images? even with the much lower-resolution scans available to us right now.

I've just been looking at one of the Panoramic images covering AS14-80-10441

http://wms.lroc.asu.edu/apollo/view?camera=P&image_name=AS16-P-4522

and I would say as a rough guess the Hycon has double the resolution of the Panoramic one.  I'm going to download the relevant tiles for study later. What else is disk space for?!

Here's a screenshot of the Panoramic image compared with the Hycon:


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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by apollo16uvc on October 16, 2018, 01:08:41 PM »
Would you say the Hycon photos have a higher resolving power than the mapping camera and pancam images? even with the much lower-resolution scans available to us right now.
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The Reality of Apollo / Re: Exclusive look at Apollo 14 NASA photos
« Last post by onebigmonkey on October 16, 2018, 12:44:35 PM »
I'm sure GoneToPlaid did a video a few years ago that showed LM Falcon in Apollo 15 orbital photos.

Yep - he's not the only one :D

http://onebigmonkey.com/apollo/pancam/pancam.html

You can even see the details change as the missions progress.

The Panoramic camera was another one of those 'contains secret stuff' things that had remarkable resolving capability, second only to the LRO.

As far as I'm concerned Adrian lied through his teeth about having a better source, and only ever had a microfiche version of the report available everywhere else. If he had better material, he would have published it. His problem (aside from delusions of grandeur), as so often occurs with Apollo hoax nuts, is that he uses Apollo to disprove Apollo, those Hycon images are very detailed and show things you can only see on modern high resolution imagery of the same area.
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