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Offline bknight

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Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« on: November 08, 2016, 06:01:02 PM »
While doing a bit of research today, I ran onto this piece of junk.
https://aplanetruth.info/6-how-did-we-go-to-the-moon-the-nasa-pictures/

About a 1/3 of the way down this person starts talking about images of a third astronaut on the surface.  The first is during A11 Aldrin with LEM, Armstrong in the visor don't know where a third might be.  But then on the next page from A12 an image of Bean holding a sample container with Conrad in the visor, and wait there is another astronaut image in the visor.  The original image https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a12/AS12-49-7278HR.jpg
does not show anyone else with only Conrad in the visor.  Do any of you long timers remember this little bit of claim of fakery?
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2016, 07:41:39 PM »
It's been photoshopped. There are also worthless Jack White claims, shown wrong almost a decade ago.

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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2016, 09:16:21 PM »
It's been photoshopped. There are also worthless Jack White claims, shown wrong almost a decade ago.

Well of course.  Anybody claim responsibility or catch the fat finger??
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2016, 09:20:56 PM »
It's been photoshopped. There are also worthless Jack White claims, shown wrong almost a decade ago.

Scrolling down further I see the reference to Jack White as I saw many of his claims.  He probably photoshopped the extra man into the visor.
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2016, 09:50:15 PM »
Actually, that comes from the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal under the "Fun Stuff" section that includes a lot of artwork and photoshops.  This is the caption:

The Real Secret of Apollo 12
David Harland (tongue firmly in cheek) has released a previously unknown Apollo 12 picture of Al Bean. The picture was taken by Pete Conrad, whose reflection is clearly visible in the center of Al's faceplate. Note, however, the reflection of a third astronaut, presumably Command Module Pilot Dick Gordon. What is amazing about this picture is the apparent fact that the Apollo 12 crew was able to keep secret Gordon's presence on the lunar surface for so long a time. The picture is similar to AS12-49-7278.


The thing is, Harland's image was not generally distributed.  The Hoax-tard copied it from ALSJ and left-off the caption that clearly shows the image is 'shopped (and who did it) and that it is a joke.  This blatant dishonesty is typical of Hoax proponents and reminds me of studies done a while back linking conspiracy belief to the projection of one's own morality (or lack thereof).  Link
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2016, 10:34:00 PM »
Actually, that comes from the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal under the "Fun Stuff" section that includes a lot of artwork and photoshops.  This is the caption:

The Real Secret of Apollo 12
David Harland (tongue firmly in cheek) has released a previously unknown Apollo 12 picture of Al Bean. The picture was taken by Pete Conrad, whose reflection is clearly visible in the center of Al's faceplate. Note, however, the reflection of a third astronaut, presumably Command Module Pilot Dick Gordon. What is amazing about this picture is the apparent fact that the Apollo 12 crew was able to keep secret Gordon's presence on the lunar surface for so long a time. The picture is similar to AS12-49-7278.


The thing is, Harland's image was not generally distributed.  The Hoax-tard copied it from ALSJ and left-off the caption that clearly shows the image is 'shopped (and who did it) and that it is a joke.  This blatant dishonesty is typical of Hoax proponents and reminds me of studies done a while back linking conspiracy belief to the projection of one's own morality (or lack thereof).  Link
Thanks for the info, but I don't see any caption on the image, yes on the paragraph that describes the image.  Oh well learn something everyday.
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2016, 04:10:12 PM »
While doing a bit of research today, I ran onto this piece of junk.

Part of that is cribbed from Kevin Overstreet's old web page, which he has long since disavowed as a teenage lark.  As part of his penance, for several years he managed the server that hosts clavius.org.
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2016, 04:30:41 PM »
While doing a bit of research today, I ran onto this piece of junk.

Part of that is cribbed from Kevin Overstreet's old web page, which he has long since disavowed as a teenage lark.  As part of his penance, for several years he managed the server that hosts clavius.org.

It is good to hear about someone that saw the light.
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2016, 04:57:15 PM »
It is good to hear about someone that saw the light.

He never seriously believed it anyway.  It was a teenage prank that unfortunately some people still take seriously.  Years later, when I finally met and worked with him, he was (and still is) a sincere fan of space exploration.  He had Apollo photo prints in his office.
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2016, 05:09:12 PM »
It is good to hear about someone that saw the light.

He never seriously believed it anyway.  It was a teenage prank that unfortunately some people still take seriously.  Years later, when I finally met and worked with him, he was (and still is) a sincere fan of space exploration.  He had Apollo photo prints in his office.

You have been busy accumulating sources and information about Apollo and the deniers over the years.  I'm glad you started the Crusade whenever it was.  And you are still an active source of information for we that follow.
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2016, 06:10:34 AM »
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And where are those dang billions and billions of stars we see in space from Earth at night?

The Moon is so reflective that it lights up or Earth at night so bright we can see easily during a full moon, yet Moon’s surface is a dull, dusty least reflecting color, gray.

I love hoax sites that answer their own questions. If only they realised that is what they have done here...  :D

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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2016, 01:52:26 PM »
It is good to hear about someone that saw the light.

He never seriously believed it anyway.  It was a teenage prank that unfortunately some people still take seriously.  Years later, when I finally met and worked with him, he was (and still is) a sincere fan of space exploration.  He had Apollo photo prints in his office.

Reminds me of the video clip of "Armstrong" jumping off the LM ladder and getting hit by a falling light fixture. He was a space fan, too, and did it as a joke. Jay, I believe you said you knew him as well. BTW, my video which includes that, among four other actual hoaxes that hoax nuts fell for, is on YouTube now:
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2016, 03:10:49 PM »
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And where are those dang billions and billions of stars we see in space from Earth at night?

The Moon is so reflective that it lights up or Earth at night so bright we can see easily during a full moon, yet Moon’s surface is a dull, dusty least reflecting color, gray.

I love hoax sites that answer their own questions. If only they realised that is what they have done here...  :D

My favorite are the conspiretards who say, "Any idiot with half a brain knows it was faked."  This might be the most accurate observation (and the most honest self-evaluation) they have ever made.  Too bad they don't realize it.
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Re: Third astronaunt in lunar surface imaged.
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2016, 05:09:07 AM »
Reminds me of the video clip of "Armstrong" jumping off the LM ladder and getting hit by a falling light fixture.

Hadn't seen this before; hilarious.